I have an ESC123E5, which I have identified as a 1979 Silver Century clutch drive, Model 75. HOWEVER, referring to the Owners Spares Book, the 'Transmission, Water Pump and Exhaust System' assembly and the 'Detachable Clamp on Bracket' assembly is from a Model 110/90, EFNR. The bracket assembly seems considerably more robust and heavier than the one from my CPC. Any thoughts/observations here?
Also, the 'Transmission, Water Pump and Exhaust' system assembly includes a neoprene (?) rubber 'Reverse Lock Sleeve.' What is the purpose of this sleeve? How should it be positioned on reassembly?
What do I have here, a cross bred model hybrid of a model 75 and 110/90 EFNR? What is the EFNR?
identification help- what do I have here?
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bruce nickerson
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I reckon you have a 1985 Model 75. Tyhe 5 refers to 75, the E refers to May of that year.
The Rubber reverse lock sleeve is the very last version of the devices used by British Seagull to stop the leg lifting up when in reverse. The lower part of the substantial bracket you describe wraps aound this sleeve, preventing the upward motion, and stopping any rattling of components against the leg. It slides u the leg, is clamped on by either a circular clench ring or (later) a nylon cable grip. It;'s important to adjust it with the tapred end at the bottom so that a tilt is attainable when you want it, but wioth the lock in place it won't budge.
The bracket is correct for the motor you have.
Many Seagull purists will describe that model as one of the best they ever made.
The EFNR stands for Electronic (ignition) Forward Neutral Reverse. Thses are identical from the gearbox upwards to your model, but of course have a reverse gear. very sought after.
The Rubber reverse lock sleeve is the very last version of the devices used by British Seagull to stop the leg lifting up when in reverse. The lower part of the substantial bracket you describe wraps aound this sleeve, preventing the upward motion, and stopping any rattling of components against the leg. It slides u the leg, is clamped on by either a circular clench ring or (later) a nylon cable grip. It;'s important to adjust it with the tapred end at the bottom so that a tilt is attainable when you want it, but wioth the lock in place it won't budge.
The bracket is correct for the motor you have.
Many Seagull purists will describe that model as one of the best they ever made.
The EFNR stands for Electronic (ignition) Forward Neutral Reverse. Thses are identical from the gearbox upwards to your model, but of course have a reverse gear. very sought after.
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bruce nickerson
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charlesp:
thank you for the information. However, there are a few questions I still have:
How did you identify this as a 1985?
In the 'Owners spares book,' the rubber sleeve is shown at the top, not the bottom, and is held in place by a worm gear hose clamp. Which is correct position?
The gear assembly on my motor has no reverse, and resembles the '12:30 clutch drive reduction gear assembly.' My gear assembly has no selector gear cover, and its gear lever resembles the one on the '12:30 clutch drive reduction gear assembly.'
With no reverse, what is the purpose of the "Reverse Lock Sleeve" and how should it be adjusted?
thank you for the information. However, there are a few questions I still have:
How did you identify this as a 1985?
In the 'Owners spares book,' the rubber sleeve is shown at the top, not the bottom, and is held in place by a worm gear hose clamp. Which is correct position?
The gear assembly on my motor has no reverse, and resembles the '12:30 clutch drive reduction gear assembly.' My gear assembly has no selector gear cover, and its gear lever resembles the one on the '12:30 clutch drive reduction gear assembly.'
With no reverse, what is the purpose of the "Reverse Lock Sleeve" and how should it be adjusted?
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bruce nickerson
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Sorry you're right and I'm wrong - taper to the top.
Adjustment is a matter of finding that part of the taper where the latch at the bottom of the bracket assembly will keep the leg from tilting when the latch is set, but allow it otherwise - ie when the lever is set to disengage it.
Have a look at all the components assembled - and play with it till it works.
My description of it working shouldn't have included the words 'in reverse'. Whilst the primary function is an anti tilt lock - as fitted to all the seagulls - its biggest help seems to be whilst starting - pulling the cord can tilt the whole motor.
The serial number ends with E5 - the letter is the month, the numeral is the year.
Check out http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/i_ ... eagull.htm
Adjustment is a matter of finding that part of the taper where the latch at the bottom of the bracket assembly will keep the leg from tilting when the latch is set, but allow it otherwise - ie when the lever is set to disengage it.
Have a look at all the components assembled - and play with it till it works.
My description of it working shouldn't have included the words 'in reverse'. Whilst the primary function is an anti tilt lock - as fitted to all the seagulls - its biggest help seems to be whilst starting - pulling the cord can tilt the whole motor.
The serial number ends with E5 - the letter is the month, the numeral is the year.
Check out http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/i_ ... eagull.htm