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FV or FVP

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:54 pm
by Keith.P
Has anyone with an FV or FVP have a zinc plated transom on it, both of my ones seem to be.
Even thought it looks more bass than bronze underneath the plate and maybe the only model that had it done.



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Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:23 pm
by Oyster 49
My FV is the same, plus I got hold of another bracket which is also finished in the same way. Both brackets are the "Baby" small bracket which I think were fitted to earlier FV and FVP engines. I'm not sure when the later bronze bracket subsequently fitted to SJM/SJP and onwards to all 40s arrived. Perhaps around the time of the LS?

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:43 pm
by Gannet
Yes, I have three small transom brackets which have all seem to have been plated. I cannot confirm that the plating is zinc - could it have been cadmium?
My early SJM, recently acquired, came with a small bracket. My measurements show that the small ones are about 1 3/4 effective opening, wheras the bigger ones appear to be 2 1/8.
Cheers,
Jeremy

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:02 am
by Stelios_Rjk
If you have many metal or alloy parts attached, as in this occasion on an outboard, due to Galvanic corrosion the first parts that will rust is the zinc one. This may be an explanation, if it is zinc, it may have been added for the protection of the rest metal/alloy parts. Zinc get rusted instead of the other parts of the outboard, as the zinc anode used nowadays.

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:45 am
by Collector Inspector
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Yes, the bracket has some form of plating.

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Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:51 pm
by Gannet
Whilst we are on early transom brackets, what are the small (0.175x0.200) cut outs on the ends of both legs of the brackets? Initially I thought that they were some manufacturing location point, but not at all sure.
Jeremy

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:28 pm
by Keith.P
All the other transoms I've seen have them, but they are a very small for transom pins, Maybe designed for looks with no actual use.
Not that I think any Seagull was designed for its looks.

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:36 pm
by Charles uk
I thought they were nickel plated, both zinc & cadmium react with acid & fizz, try a drip of battery acid, nickel won't fizz, very difficult to dissolve.

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:46 pm
by fortyplus
I remember seeing some with plated brackets back in the day, I'm not sure why or for what reason it wasn't done on other models/years. I would have thought nickel plating too.

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:59 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
My unused EFPC has a plated transom bracket.
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It is silver in colour, all the other ones I have are bronze colour.

H-A

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:30 pm
by fortyplus
My 90 bracket is silver in colour, but that's the material it's cast in, not a plating. If yours is plated they were probably just going for a consistent color scheme. When they went to a black on the last models I thought that looked horrible.

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:02 pm
by charlesp
I have seen a forty bracket cast in aluminium...

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:10 pm
by fortyplus
I think they switched to that on the later models - by the 80's the bronze age was long finished everywhere except at Seagull :)

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:21 pm
by Keith.P
I could dip it in acid (transom), but I have no spares, I will take you as your word its nickel plate.

Re: FV or FVP

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:14 am
by Collector Inspector
I just noticed that indeed, the fv/p brackets have a wee slot in each. Maybe just a smaller version of say a 102 bracket?