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Has anyone with an FV or FVP have a zinc plated transom on it, both of my ones seem to be.
Even thought it looks more bass than bronze underneath the plate and maybe the only model that had it done.



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My FV is the same, plus I got hold of another bracket which is also finished in the same way. Both brackets are the "Baby" small bracket which I think were fitted to earlier FV and FVP engines. I'm not sure when the later bronze bracket subsequently fitted to SJM/SJP and onwards to all 40s arrived. Perhaps around the time of the LS?
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Yes, I have three small transom brackets which have all seem to have been plated. I cannot confirm that the plating is zinc - could it have been cadmium?
My early SJM, recently acquired, came with a small bracket. My measurements show that the small ones are about 1 3/4 effective opening, wheras the bigger ones appear to be 2 1/8.
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If you have many metal or alloy parts attached, as in this occasion on an outboard, due to Galvanic corrosion the first parts that will rust is the zinc one. This may be an explanation, if it is zinc, it may have been added for the protection of the rest metal/alloy parts. Zinc get rusted instead of the other parts of the outboard, as the zinc anode used nowadays.
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Yes, the bracket has some form of plating.

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Whilst we are on early transom brackets, what are the small (0.175x0.200) cut outs on the ends of both legs of the brackets? Initially I thought that they were some manufacturing location point, but not at all sure.
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All the other transoms I've seen have them, but they are a very small for transom pins, Maybe designed for looks with no actual use.
Not that I think any Seagull was designed for its looks.
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I thought they were nickel plated, both zinc & cadmium react with acid & fizz, try a drip of battery acid, nickel won't fizz, very difficult to dissolve.
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I remember seeing some with plated brackets back in the day, I'm not sure why or for what reason it wasn't done on other models/years. I would have thought nickel plating too.
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My unused EFPC has a plated transom bracket.
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It is silver in colour, all the other ones I have are bronze colour.

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My 90 bracket is silver in colour, but that's the material it's cast in, not a plating. If yours is plated they were probably just going for a consistent color scheme. When they went to a black on the last models I thought that looked horrible.
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I have seen a forty bracket cast in aluminium...
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I think they switched to that on the later models - by the 80's the bronze age was long finished everywhere except at Seagull :)
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I could dip it in acid (transom), but I have no spares, I will take you as your word its nickel plate.
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I just noticed that indeed, the fv/p brackets have a wee slot in each. Maybe just a smaller version of say a 102 bracket?
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