Having had rather a struggle - as usual - to get an ordinary oval tank back into shape, I'm anxious to improve on my current painting methods.
I've been using Halford's black aerosols, with a coat or two of their 'petrol resistant lacquer' to prevent the colour from being instantly washed away by the first contact with 2 stroke mix.
The lacquer, unfortunately, fried the decals I used, and it's back to square one tomorrow with the paint stripper.
Anyone out there got a recommendation for truly petrol proof paint and lacquer/varnish - in a combination that won't wreck a silk-screened decal?
Restoring tanks
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Charles UK
Paint stripper alternative
Charles I find that within 2 weeks of paint being applied modern unleaded petrol will strip paint better than Nitromors & without the need for protective gloves.
I'm told it's the benzine that replaces some of the missing lead properties that can desecrate my so carefully applied Hammerite smooth black aerosol paint & zinc chromate etch primer.
Fear has prevented me from testing the Halfords petrol proof clear lacquer that I used to prevent this happening & to protect the self adhesive label I used on my Mallard.
I contacted Hammerite's technical research who advised letting their paints "cure" for 14 days before using the tank for the purpose intended.
It would help anyone reading responces to these posts with a miracle cure or product, if the poster also included their location, as the other Charles & I look like deranged glue sniffers searching our local do-it-yourself shops for a brand of petrol proof paint that is only available in Alaska or Tasmania.
I'm told it's the benzine that replaces some of the missing lead properties that can desecrate my so carefully applied Hammerite smooth black aerosol paint & zinc chromate etch primer.
Fear has prevented me from testing the Halfords petrol proof clear lacquer that I used to prevent this happening & to protect the self adhesive label I used on my Mallard.
I contacted Hammerite's technical research who advised letting their paints "cure" for 14 days before using the tank for the purpose intended.
It would help anyone reading responces to these posts with a miracle cure or product, if the poster also included their location, as the other Charles & I look like deranged glue sniffers searching our local do-it-yourself shops for a brand of petrol proof paint that is only available in Alaska or Tasmania.
Charles I really must warn you that your street cred is plummetting these last few weeks.
Today we have the deranged glue sniffer, only hours ago you were talking about peeing on your hand to compare coolant outlet temperatures, and it wasn't long ago we had the vision of you in drag...
...as you're the same age as me has all this got something to do with what we were all smoking in 1969?
Seriously, what you say about benzene rings a bell. I remember long ago trying to remove Humbrol paint from an Aifix Spitfire. We lived on a farm, so no shortage of organic solvents of one type or another. I tried Plus Gas, diesel, petrol, lighter fluid, and probably the types of thing that have long since been banned on safety grounds.
I remember that all the plastic dissolved, or at least went squishy and soft.
But the defective brown and grey camouflage remained intact, only flaking away where the wing or whatever was flexing... Obviously there was something different about 1963 petrol.
There are wonderful products out there - look at the stuff they paint cars with; but it's 2 pack, expensive, difficult to apply without the right kit.
Sadly Airfix have gone the way of so many institutions.
Today we have the deranged glue sniffer, only hours ago you were talking about peeing on your hand to compare coolant outlet temperatures, and it wasn't long ago we had the vision of you in drag...
...as you're the same age as me has all this got something to do with what we were all smoking in 1969?
Seriously, what you say about benzene rings a bell. I remember long ago trying to remove Humbrol paint from an Aifix Spitfire. We lived on a farm, so no shortage of organic solvents of one type or another. I tried Plus Gas, diesel, petrol, lighter fluid, and probably the types of thing that have long since been banned on safety grounds.
I remember that all the plastic dissolved, or at least went squishy and soft.
But the defective brown and grey camouflage remained intact, only flaking away where the wing or whatever was flexing... Obviously there was something different about 1963 petrol.
There are wonderful products out there - look at the stuff they paint cars with; but it's 2 pack, expensive, difficult to apply without the right kit.
Sadly Airfix have gone the way of so many institutions.
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CatiGull
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I doubt the benzene (or aromatic hydrocarbon) content of fuel has changed much over the years, the big change was getting lead out (in the form tetra-ethyl lead) - this was used in approximate concentrations of 1:1500 volume/volume if I recall - not a large enough concentration to change solvent properties in a gross way......
(on researching....)
Wrong again....older formulations of petrol were up to 5% benzene by volume, whereas new regulations required less than 1% benzene content...
I found an interesting paper on the original treatise on the use of tetraethyl lead in gas - the pilot plant for producing this had an early exposure which killed five workers working with the formulation through lead exposure...this was in 1925....50 years later we figured out Lead was poisoning kids and we banned it in the US....
(on researching....)
Wrong again....older formulations of petrol were up to 5% benzene by volume, whereas new regulations required less than 1% benzene content...
I found an interesting paper on the original treatise on the use of tetraethyl lead in gas - the pilot plant for producing this had an early exposure which killed five workers working with the formulation through lead exposure...this was in 1925....50 years later we figured out Lead was poisoning kids and we banned it in the US....
Stephen
Awenke Yacht Club
New Baltimore NY
S/V Catigale
Macgregor 26X
Island 17 Sloop
Awenke Yacht Club
New Baltimore NY
S/V Catigale
Macgregor 26X
Island 17 Sloop
Hi all.
how about this http://www.hempel.us/internet/hempelcom ... _52140.pdf.
I am not sure, as my english is not very good.
regards
how about this http://www.hempel.us/internet/hempelcom ... _52140.pdf.
I am not sure, as my english is not very good.
regards
I have just asked the manufactures, and they told me it should be resistent to allmost anything as it becomes very hard and dont contain any acrylic parts. I dont know however if it is availeble in your countries but I think so. It is painting for ships and boats. mm.
When hardened, it should not be " soluble ".
When hardened, it should not be " soluble ".