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Forty Plus SJP 29215 daft question

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As per title, daft question please but how do I remove collar from drive shaft?
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Clean the outside of the collar off, find the pin on the outside of the collar and drive it out, then pull off the collar.
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phil wrote:Clean the outside of the collar off, find the pin on the outside of the collar and drive it out, then pull off the collar.
Perfect, thank you :D
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Got the gearbox apart, removed the gunk, before I go to town with it could I have opinions on it's condition please?
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Your lucky, it looks in good condition, how tight is it in the bushes, If you don't mind me asking.
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Keith.P wrote:Your lucky, it looks in good condition, how tight is it in the bushes, If you don't mind me asking.
Lol, I will pop it in and give it a wiggle when I get home from work tonight, didnt think to check when I was taking apart this morning :roll:
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Just had a look and bushes are tight, what would be best way of cleaning all the muck out please?
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I have used petrol old 2 stroke fuel is good or turpentine or wd40 or kero
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chris wrote:I have used petrol old 2 stroke fuel is good or turpentine or wd40 or kero
I have 3 litres of old 2 stroke fuel from last season, ideal. Many thanks :D
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As the engine is in bits is it worth taking lower end off for a complete clean or do I Ieave well alone?
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Thought I better see if the person old girl sparks and there was none :( its a villers ignition, are the points under the metal circle opposite the cylinder or is a spark created by magnets on inside of fly wheel?
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Yes the points are under the brass cover. Move to the right or to the left the holder and remove it. Maybe cleaning the points is the only thing needed but in any case this coil is 60 or more years old and decomposing. Even if it gives spark it's not safe to go to the sea.
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Yes the points are under the round brass cover, better to remove the flywheel and test it, maybe its still working.
Put just the nut back on, lift up the flywheel with one hand, just off the ground, or get spouse to hold and then hit repeatedly with a soft blunt object, then do the same to the flywheel nut.
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I will try and remove flywheel to get to points, if it sparks again how would I know if safe to use or will it need replacing?
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You don't need to remove the flywheel to gain access to the points. You can work from the holes of the flywheel. If you measure the resistance (Ohms) from the HT lead to the cylinder head and you get 3000 to 5000 Ohms that means that your coil is OK. But it can fail tomorrow as it is too old. The best way is to replace it. Or if you don't care about how original your engine is you can swap the whole ignition system for a later one (wipak MK2).

In addition start soaking the joints flywheel to crankshaft with a lubricant. I use permatex penetrant and it's fine. If you are patient a week of applying 3-4 times a day lubricant it would be beneficial.
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