Not Really an Outboard But!

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Not Really an Outboard But!

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I just picked up this little stationary engine, It's a Villiers Marvil from 1933. I did a little research and found an interesting point, this little engine gets it's name from the first three letters of each of it's founders MAR-ston and VIL-liers hence MARVIL, also I noticed that the villiers coolie hat mag internals including the coil are similar if not the same as my Marston and this one has a spark :D
The air cooled block/barrel also looks like it would fit a Seagull, air cooled Seagull anyone!!!

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I've heard about the Marvil, first time I've seen one. Excellent! Wonder if it is a 102cc? As you say it could have a lot of common bits inside. the villiers factory was close to sunbeamland in Wolverhampton.
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The base studs on the bottom of the barrel are the correct distance to fit a Seagull and the exhaust is in the right place, I might strip it down to have a look but all this is blasphemous :twisted:

I can see me being barred from any Seagull event especially if I turn up with an air cooled Marston!!
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The relationship between Villiers & Marston is a lot closer than location, keep researching.
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Thanks Keith!
Nice work!
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That was some good reading there. Ive noticed theres no cover for the coil and points, Does the flywheel have nothing at all on them motors.
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Great article, interesting, Thanks.
From the pictures I have seen it should have a coolie hat type cover, a Marston one may well fit.
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Cool engine, now you just need a washing machine to power with it. I have a bunch of the Canadian Iron Horse kick start washing machine engines that were made by Johnson of OB Fame. Our discerning house wives however required 4 strokes.
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It will take a coolie hat style flywheel cover, they are a pretty collectable little engine.
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Very 8)

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Very 8)

Well Done!

One thing that bugs me is that even when contacting Villiers they know nothing of a 5F version 4A water cooled engine.

Absolutely Nuffin! I asked for them to look but have had no reply last 3 years or so. :(

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