Biodegradeable oil
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Biodegradeable oil
Apologies if this has been posted before. I am looking for a recommendation of a readily available biodegradeable 2 stroke oil in the UK. Are all the synthetic oils biodegradeable and are they pretty much all the same from company to company?
I will be using my seagull on a very beautiful stretch of French river and feel I should minimise any pollution if I can. Having said that I am sure the large tourist boats on there spill their share of fuel, but we can only do our bit cant we!
I did do a search on here last week and remember somebody saying that one bio oil left an excessive amount of brown sludge dripping from the exhaust which made a mess when the motor was in transit. Somebody else said they had no problems but didnt name the oil they were using.
Just so I dont waste my money does anybody have any firm recommendations, or a link?
Ps. Mine is a 1989 forty plus running on 25:1
I will be using my seagull on a very beautiful stretch of French river and feel I should minimise any pollution if I can. Having said that I am sure the large tourist boats on there spill their share of fuel, but we can only do our bit cant we!
I did do a search on here last week and remember somebody saying that one bio oil left an excessive amount of brown sludge dripping from the exhaust which made a mess when the motor was in transit. Somebody else said they had no problems but didnt name the oil they were using.
Just so I dont waste my money does anybody have any firm recommendations, or a link?
Ps. Mine is a 1989 forty plus running on 25:1
Re: Biodegradeable oil
There is Motul 2 strokes synthetic.
Spécification:
http://www.motul.com/system/product_des ... 1290086772
Spécification:
http://www.motul.com/system/product_des ... 1290086772
Re: Biodegradeable oil
There is Castrol Biolube 2T. I have no idea whether it is suitable for our Seagulls. Perhaps, somebody who knows could comment. I am sticking to TC-W3 until it has been resolved.
Here is an extract from Castrol's spec sheet:-
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Applications
Castrol Biolube 2T is a fully synthetic biodegradable 2-stroke engine oil for use in watercooled outboard and personal watercraft engines,
including those from leading Japanese manufacturers where NMMA TC-W 3 lubricants are specified. It is specially formulated to combine the
requirements of high performance engines with environmental demands such as biodegradability and low hydrocarbon emissions. It is readily
miscible with fuel and contains selected ashless additives to provide exceptional overall engine cleanliness, thermal stability, and reduced
spark plug fouling.
Castrol Biolube 2T is suitable for use in premix and oil injection systems with both leaded or unleaded petrol for fuel/oil mixture ratios, as
recommended by the engine manufacturer, up to 100:1.
The biodegradability of Castrol Biolube 2T has been established by the European test method CEC L-33-T82. The results confirmed that,
depending upon natural conditions, it will biodegrade in water over 80% within 21 days, which is far superior biodegradability than that of
conventional mineral based 2-stroke engine oils.
Here is an extract from Castrol's spec sheet:-
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Applications
Castrol Biolube 2T is a fully synthetic biodegradable 2-stroke engine oil for use in watercooled outboard and personal watercraft engines,
including those from leading Japanese manufacturers where NMMA TC-W 3 lubricants are specified. It is specially formulated to combine the
requirements of high performance engines with environmental demands such as biodegradability and low hydrocarbon emissions. It is readily
miscible with fuel and contains selected ashless additives to provide exceptional overall engine cleanliness, thermal stability, and reduced
spark plug fouling.
Castrol Biolube 2T is suitable for use in premix and oil injection systems with both leaded or unleaded petrol for fuel/oil mixture ratios, as
recommended by the engine manufacturer, up to 100:1.
The biodegradability of Castrol Biolube 2T has been established by the European test method CEC L-33-T82. The results confirmed that,
depending upon natural conditions, it will biodegrade in water over 80% within 21 days, which is far superior biodegradability than that of
conventional mineral based 2-stroke engine oils.
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Re: Biodegradeable oil
You can use Castrol bio-lube. But dont do as the bottle says and run a less amount of oil. Still mix it at 25-1. Bio-lube is a very expensive oil to purchase and using 25-1 mix wont last long. But it is probably the best biodegradable oil on the market. Im sure some of our SOS members from the usa can clarify this, there are some dams over there that wont allow 2T outboards on the water unless the fuel has bio-lube. And they test it b4 you go out. Quicksilver premium plus (Mercury marine)is TCW-3 oil and its probably the best non bio-lube oil thats good for the enviroment.
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Re: Biodegradeable oil
You wont be doing any signifigant harm no matter what you burn in your seagull. The dose makes the poison and you can't pour enough oil through your combustion chamber to amount to a hill of beans.
As a cerified professional tree hugger and leach of the green economy I can assure you that no guilt is due on your part. Have a great time on the river and if you get a chance shake your fist at the 747 contrail in the sky above you.
As a cerified professional tree hugger and leach of the green economy I can assure you that no guilt is due on your part. Have a great time on the river and if you get a chance shake your fist at the 747 contrail in the sky above you.
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Yes but remember the contrail is only water
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But remember also that every tonne of water would have been accompanied by rather more than 2 tonnes of CO2Niander101 wrote:Yes but remember the contrail is only water
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Yes what you see is mostly water but.............contrail is only water
Re: Biodegradeable oil
That 747 in the sky keeps me in a job (and thus seagulls)
Think we need to tackle some bigger hitters in the pollution business first.
My boss was telling me a story the other day when we were discussing pollution in China. He flew into a industrial city north of Beijing and as they circled in to land you could taste the suplhur, and actually see the brown haze inside the plane
This was from power stations burning very high sulphur coal apparently.
Thats what needs a fist waving at!
I've used a couple of bio degradeable two stroke oils, both seemed ok. Did have a different smell though, a bit like hot cooking oil.

Think we need to tackle some bigger hitters in the pollution business first.
My boss was telling me a story the other day when we were discussing pollution in China. He flew into a industrial city north of Beijing and as they circled in to land you could taste the suplhur, and actually see the brown haze inside the plane

Thats what needs a fist waving at!
I've used a couple of bio degradeable two stroke oils, both seemed ok. Did have a different smell though, a bit like hot cooking oil.
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Re: Biodegradeable oil
I was in Delhi a few years back, and it took me a week to get over "Delhi Throat".Oyster 49 wrote: My boss was telling me a story the other day when we were discussing pollution in China. He flew into a industrial city north of Beijing and as they circled in to land you could taste the suplhur, and actually see the brown haze inside the planeThis was from power stations burning very high sulphur coal apparently.
All the little 2 stroke Tuk-Tuks and the charcoal fires made it very unpleasant.
As India is a growing industrial nation, like China a few years ago, I also believe that we should be looking to shake the fist towards them.
In parts of China I believe it gets dark early in the day because of the smog.
I will still be using the normal 2 Stroke oil at 16:1, and will not be putting the Veg oil near my engines unless it is Castrol R.

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