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allymoss
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Seagull Servicing etc

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Hi,

I know John used to service engines, and not sure if he still does. Apart from him, I don't know anyone who will service Seagulls for the general public who don't know much about them.

I would just like to know who does it apart from me!

www.digi-camuk.co.uk/seagulls


Note the picture of the Seagulls at the bottom of the page!

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Post by Katomi »

Hi I am picking brains here ... I sail and have a silver c plus on tickover just in case because I sail alone in a busy port there fore the flow stops.. If I arrange a forced back flow whilst the motor running to cool the block will it hurt ?
Stephen
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Back flow

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Hi Katomi,

I would do it whilst it is not running, although when running, it won't hurt it as unlike modern outboards, it has a solid plastic impeller.

Seagulls are designed to run all day on tick over without cooling water so shouldn't matter, just rev it up once in a while for 15 seconds just to get some water through.

If your cooling system is fully cleared, water should trickle through at low revs although at ticking over, I have only seen one engine that pumps water.

If you nearby, you could drop your engine off, for 20 mins and I could clear the water system free of charge. e.g. head off
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Post by Katomi »

thanks for reply, I am in fareham hants so not a pop round but will rem if I am in your area
I was just worried that after a while it starts to steem untill I take it to half revs
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Post by charlesp »

Actually, I'd be a bit wary of keeping a Seagull on tickover. If there's coolant water coming out, then it's going to overheat.

It's perfectly true that a few seconds with no apparent coolant is fine - indeed a few seconds run out of water completely is fine too, but to keep the motor starved of its cooling for much longer is to ask for trouble.

Whith each motor that I repair or service I give the owner a couple of sheets of written advice about his or her engine, its care and fuel mixture etc, and the final phrase in the current edition is 'keep it buzzing...'
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Coolant

Post by allymoss »

Thanks for that Charles!

It is probably better if you insure that the engine coolant flow is good all the time.

Good solution TURN IT OFF! Warm it up before you leave and fit a recoil starter, it will be easy to start when out in the port!

I do a test run for 1 hour in a tank on all my serviced seagulls, annoys the neighbours, I make sure water is flowing through at quite low revs.

Original questions was is it ok to force a backflow, how do you do that out on your boat! Just curious! But best just to rev it up in neutral if you have a clutch.
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Post by Katomi »

I was planning on having a 12v pump to force water throu the eng at low revs. when I am sailing single handed in portsmouth harbour I dont have the room to play with the eng starting so I leave running and just give burst of revs to get the water flowing whilst its out of gear. Not ideal and hence the question thanks any way this w/e I will be taking the 40 plus out and playing with that
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Post by mrdraddy »

dont forget that long shaft runs 10:1 oil/petrol stephen,hate to hear you seized the old girl!!!
regards paul
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Post by Katomi »

mrdraddy wrote:dont forget that long shaft runs 10:1 oil/petrol stephen,hate to hear you seized the old girl!!!
Yes DAD
She behaved like a lady today, we went for a "stroll" up the river and back again.
By the way I got her back home before 11pm lol


10:1 is fine cos that what the other one's are so only one mix lol
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Re servicing

Post by John@sos »

Hello Alistair,
There are many people who service Seagulls, I do it in the winter, and I know of at least a dozen who do it commercially and many more who do it for fun. I know because I supply parts to them so they can do it. Most have enough business and do not wish to advertise, but you can find a few on my links page...

Lots of people however do not shout about it as the Inland Revenue would also like to know!

If you are shouting about it, be sure to fill in the tax form and declare it, or best keep quiet and work on recomendation, word of mouth!

A little birdy tells me that the seagulls you picture are actually a long way from Cheshire..... that's a bit naughty if it's true!

John
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Post by charlesp »

Wish there was a 'recommend this post' button to hand...

There are quite a few down my way who service Seagulls, and for someone to imply that he can do 'jobs that can't be done elsewhere' would, I suspect, deeply upset one gentleman who ran British Seagull's Repairs Department for years, and who is still repairing the company's products - some of which he originally assembled in the factory.
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and fit a recoil starter, i
Pretty close to heresy.... :lol:
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