Introduction and is it treatable?

[Rob Ripley]

....another quick question, do Seagulls have a cutoff switch?
No

...or do you circle until the Carb bowl empties?
Yes

[Rob Ripley]

or know how many seconds it takes after the tap is closed when approaching the wharf.

[Daxk]

Thanks Bob, Judgement and accurate timekeeping it is then.
hope my mysteries have a clutch.This memory popped into my mind, we were young, at a river in South Africa which was about the width of the Thames, speedboat with something large stamped Evinrude on the back and learning to waterski.
River was about 4 foot deep at the bank where we were picknicking with the young ladies we were trying to impress, and the trick was to finish the turn and coast into the bank.
None had got this right and had the undignified flopping into the water trying to get feet out of skis etc much to the lasses merriment.
Friend called John Griffin briefed the driver, got the speed right, let go at the right moment,leant back and got the tips of the skis up the 6 inches or so to clear the and ski'd up onto the grass at a great rate of knots...
Until the small skegs at the back of the skis cut through the wet grass and brought the skis to a perfect ,sharp halt.
John, however, continued,
he touched ground twice before he hit the fully laden picnic table.
his wife to be did marry him, but he never lived it down.

[Daxk]

Right!! my beauties have arrived!
the main one is a 1971 Silver Century with a clutch?, I assume thats the rod that operates down? looks in pretty good nick.
I trust that means I can idle while the carb runs dry?
it has a 5 bladed prop.
WSPCL 2800EI Long Shaft

the other was the main workhorse
also a Silver Century, but much older and well worn, it is fixed drive, has a 4 bladed prop and a Villiers Carb
CPL 1492D7 longshaft.
I see both use EP 140 oil,
I also have a spare tank that looks in very good state
will probably start cleaning the oursides this weekend as I explore!
any advice on the above motors welcomed.

[charlesp]

CPL would make it a Century rather than a Silver Century, the Villiers carb confirms it. Both decent engines.

[Daxk]

Thanks

[Daxk]

another one of many, struggling to find either ep140 or SAE 140, Tractor restorer tomorrow??
how much should I buy? both motors have been drained thoroughly?

[Hugz]

Penrite

Any of these places close to you?

SCOTLAND

Jeffrey's Garage, Greenlaw, Duns Tel: 01361 810533

Gibbon & Wilson Ltd., Glasgow Tel: 0141 943 1333

Chic Doig, Cardenden, Kircaldy Tel: 01592 722999

Edinburgh Sportscar Parts, Dalkeith Tel: 0131 654 1613

MCF Classic Cars, Motherwell Tel: 01698 254141

Mini Mart, Gateside, Fife Tel: 01337 860666

Dollar Motor Garage Co., Clackmannanshire Tel: 01259 742332

[Daxk]

Thank you for the effort, Unfortunately ,I am in Ireland.

[Hugz]

Have some sent over

John has it or:

http://cgi.ebay.ie/British-Seagull-Outb ... 563034ad27

[Daxk]

One should always try close to home.
4litres of EP 140 for €23 in my local spare parts supplier.
any idea of the quantities each motor takes?

[Bluecloud]

Leaving behind only a rainbow on the water and a blue cloud in the sky, another Seagull drones uncomplainingly away, lovely stuff! I had a clutched 102, sturdy lil brute. From memory the water stopped with the propeller, prolonged idling not recommended. I could be wrong about this. I have a seagull but no boat. How sad is that?

[Daxk]

Well there is good news and not so good news.


CPL1492D7 is frozen solid(LHS), cannot move the flywheel and the Piston is at the top of the stroke, I've poured oil in, up ended it,danced the hokey cokey with it and welcome advice.
one interesting thing is that it is shown as a long shaft yet is shorter than her younger sibling WPSPCL2800E1 on the right hand side.
there everything looks ok, everything spins freely with some compression, the Clutch works and the carb does not look too bad.
I need the connection from the the tank with the stopcock as well as the pipe and screw fitting to the bottom of the carb(not sure which carb it is) and will order that plus some other bits from John on Monday/Tuesday.



apart from the small , newer Tank ...


there is a larger tank also marked Seagull with a cradle but it has two Holes for a stopcock/Fueltap, one on either side..




and if anyone else also likes old British Tin, this is why its taken so long to get around to it

[Buzzook]

If adjusted properly, shutting off the throttle should kill the motor, if not, try choking the air inlet, or failing that, shutting off the fuel and driving round in circles. No, seriously, the throttle 'off' is off. Some of the very late models had shut off buttons like the Yankee iron.

Is a direct drive idling while the prop still turns? This is a six Bundy question for the New Year campfire, methinks.

But technically, 'idle' is a function of engine rpm, not prop rpm, so the answer is yes.

I, too am awaiting with bated breath the imminent arrival of a large carton of 'machine parts' from the UK, containg not one but two shiny Seagulls, and numerous assorted bits therof. Even scored an original Seagull carry bag and engine hood. I'll have the 'Best Dressed Seagull' award in my pocket, I reckon!

[Daxk]

Thanks Buzzook, fortunately my ebay purchase has a clutch but its not been on Irish water yet.... fingers crossed.