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Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:30 pm
by Shearwater
Apparently there are different flywheel cover plates for the Villiers: with the text shallow engraved and no black and with a slightly deeper engraving filled up with black paint, making the text clearly visible. I'm looking for the latter in good shape (no dents or serious scratching). See also picture.

I tried to blacken the text on the first type, but that is not so easy because the engraving is so shallow and the results were not satisfying.
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:50 pm
by Keith.P
You have the best in the world, not common, the best for the world, more common, but still hard to get either in good condition, or the common plain one.
The text is very shallow to start with, so cleaning normally makes them worse.
I have tried to make one more suitable for a seagull.
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:04 pm
by Stelios_Rjk
CNC?
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:14 am
by Keith.P
Acid etched!
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:59 am
by Stelios_Rjk
Oh no, you shouldn't have mentioned that, now I have to try that method! I have read the theory but I hadn't imagine that it could work in this occasion.
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:22 am
by Keith.P
Handy for coffee cups.
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:36 am
by Shearwater
Keith.P wrote:I have tried to make one more suitable for a seagull.
Are you satisfied with the result of your effort?
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:09 am
by Charles uk
You might have to ask Seagull for their permission to reproduce something that they must have copyright on the design/image/artwork.
I know that in the past they have made Seagull traders change their business names to ones that didn't cause copyright problems!
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:21 am
by Hugz
I thought they all were originally in black. Unfortunately I can't help.
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:56 am
by Keith.P
Copyright. Right, OK.
The best outboard motor in the world,
This statement has always been a little suspect. If you try to use this statement on an outboard motor, especially nowadays, you would be liable for a lawsuit. You wouldn't be able to produce an outboard let alone anything else with such a statement.
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:21 am
by Stelios_Rjk
Now I noticed that the etched acid cover says something funny!!
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:47 am
by Shearwater
I think it is no problem to have a small series of flywheel covers made, on a non profit basis just for restoring purposes and not to make a business of it, with "The best Outboard Motor in the World" on it.
Is Seagull still an existing company or does someone have the rights on the name?
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:13 pm
by bercan
wasnt seagull bought by Selva??
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:22 pm
by charlesp
British Seagull are still a going concern
http://www.britishseagull.co.uk
Occasionally one sees flywheel covers in excellent condition on eBay, sometimes even the ones with "in" rather than "for".
Re: Flywheel cover with text in black
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:38 pm
by Shearwater
I didn't know. I thought they had quit the stage years ago.
Anyhow, it should be no problem now to find out if they would object against reproducing flywheel covers.