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Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:45 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
http://www.ccwbra.com/index.html

Look like they might go just with a seagull.

Videos look good.

http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/powe ... racer.html

Worth looking at these next pictures

http://www.clcboats.com/media_gallery/s ... e=1&next=1

Roll on the good weather, this must be one to build.

H-A

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:04 pm
by spiderg
H-A, what do you think the spec on building this would be, i.e. how many sheets, glass etc?
Looks quite like a wee yellow thing that pops up in pictures here every so often.

Looks fun though.

Gerard :evil:

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:21 am
by Rob Ripley
Perhaps the design could benefit from a cav plate to stop the porpoising.

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:17 am
by Charles uk
For a 1939 design it's quite pretty, but very small, looks very over built, & needs the pilot position moved forward by almost a foot, as I'm a light weight i'd look like a figurehead driving that & with all those bulkheads & ribs I don't think I could carry it.

Here's a picture to show how many ribs & bulkheads the yellow one needed.

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:59 pm
by spiderg
Good points Charles. It does look a neat wee toy though. Like yourself I'm on the lower scale of the weights and I would be steering with my pencil whilst I leant right forward. Could it be modernised a bit? I really like it. The question I ask myself, what's more fit for purpose, this one or H-A's masterpieces???

Gerard

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:29 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
The picture on the net of the frames of this boat, are drawn to scale.
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I am tempted to build one, but much lighter than the Yanks version.

H-A

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:21 pm
by spiderg
Would you care to expand on your thinking H-A?

Gerard.

Charles will pm you tomorrow and let you know when I'm at home

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:51 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
spiderg wrote:Would you care to expand on your thinking H-A?

Gerard.
cc.jpg
:wink:

H-A

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:19 am
by Charles uk
I don't see the point of building a hull that requires 50+ lbs of ballast right up in the bow, to permit you to use the steering in the coventional manner.

I think it's safe to say there are some major flaws in this design.

And they want more than $1000 for the complete kit.

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:37 am
by Horsley-Anarak
Charles uk wrote:I don't see the point of building a hull that requires 50+ lbs of ballast right up in the bow, to permit you to use the steering in the coventional manner.

I think it's safe to say there are some major flaws in this design.

And they want more than $1000 for the complete kit.
Plans £25, build with WBP and epoxy £150.

Boats are being built and raced in 33 states and 7 countries, can't be all bad.

This class of racing boat has areas that can be improved, but they are restricted by class rules to keep the speed down.

I think I will send off for some plans so that I can keep in class rules. The boat must have a minimum weight of 72lbs, to meet US regs, not sure I will do that.

H-A

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:43 pm
by Buzzook
Weight 72lb...32kg....

Nuff said...

I've carried one of Raoul's boats and I guarantee it didn't weigh 20kg....

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:40 pm
by Charles uk
I was very involved with the build of Microgull 1, when it was first painted it weighted 39.4 lbs & if I remember right it was 11 ft 3" long.

It's been repaired several times in the last 8 years, it slid off the trailer 1 time & got towed down the road by the bow line, that took some glass & filler, because I had to fix it, & it's been painted several times, a coat of paint on a boat that big must weigh 1 lb.

I'd guess about 45 lb now.

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:09 pm
by skyetoyman
I just wonder how these young ladies manage to steer in that position. One can't imagine where the tiller arm is going

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:15 pm
by Charles uk
Terry that's where the expression "does my bum look big in this?" came from.

Re: Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:24 pm
by skyetoyman
I did almost say "I could see spiderg in one of those" but swiftly changed my mind