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OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:26 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... SA:GB:1123

Johnson Master twin, can't find anything on the net about it.
Master.jpg
Master 2.jpg
Anyone seen one before? Bruce have you got 3 of these :lol:

H-A

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:34 pm
by Oyster 49
That looks like a real project! 8)

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:13 pm
by Charles uk
You two are going to have to learn how to be selective.

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:49 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
I think that for the british market they were using brass drive tube, exhaust, gearbox. with all the ali it must be worth £40 in scrap :lol:

Worth a punt, when I pick it up and he has a shed full of Marstons I will let you know.

H-A

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:50 am
by Oyster 49
"You two are going to have to learn how to be selective"


Don't worry Charles, H-A and I will leave the easy ones for everybody else :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:00 pm
by skyetoyman
Effingham in Surrey -- shouldn't that town be twinned with Effin in Ireland.
I was in Cork bus station once when a Priest asked where the Effin bus was.
Best of luck with the engine -- that is an Effin task.

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:21 pm
by Charles uk
I wish I could pick the easy ones, you try getting someone to cut new gears for you, or finding & changing the imperial big end needles & having new pins made for a 5 piece 2 cylinder crank, with having to become a rent grandad.

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:36 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
Rope pull.jpg
Another Canadian Johnson, Phil looks like I am going to need your help again :lol:
Gear box.jpg
I has a wicked bronze/ brass gear box.
Side.jpg
All I need is a pair of cylinder and a prop, then good to go.

Not sure of the age not mentioned in "The Old Outboard Book" must be early thirties.

What is the chance of getting a pair of cylinder for one of these ? :roll:

H-A

P.S. just found it 1934 2.8 HP 8)

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:07 pm
by Collector Inspector
What you just got is basically further "Obsession"

Do not listen to detractors.................

Parts, my Mates Doug and Molly (Doing Xmas in Florida next couple of weeks) But......

douglas.penn@gmail.com

Engine numbers and away you can ask.

B

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:57 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
Thanks Bruce,

I need to find out if the Canadian cylinders are the same as any others.

It is coming apart quite well.
Cylinder Small.jpg
The tank has cleaned up quite well. I have been asked to send pictures of this to a collector in Canada, which I have done.
small tank.jpg
Just need to get the pistons out of the cylinders.

Cast iron crankcase was a surprise.

Gearbox free, crankshaft bearings good.

H-A

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:02 am
by The Tinker
Could you fill us in on how these engines work? Is there two different cavities in the crankcase for each piston? Do both conrods use a common crank pin?

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:13 am
by Charles uk
Andy
2 pins 180 degrees apart
common crankcase
self balancing they run very smooth
2 sparks at the same time.

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:07 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
Carb cleaned up well.
small carb.jpg
Have been speaking to a guy in Canada who has engine 24238, I have 24228.
He only knows of three of these engines, they were built for export.

Mine is the only one that has a tank decal 8)

It was made in 1935 not 1934.

The cylinders may be common with other Johnson engines.

H-A

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:06 pm
by Oyster 49
A real find! Keep those photos coming :P

Re: OMG What have I just bought !!!

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:14 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
A guy in the states has offered me a parts book for the price of the postage.

There are nice people out there on the interweb.

The cylinder look like they are common with 3 other Johnson types, so looking hopeful.

As Bruce said I need to speak to Douglas Penn, he is the man to find that sort of thing.

Found this advert for the OB 65, export model had bronze gearbox .
small add for ob 65.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD4WwBAD ... re=related

This is a similar engine that has the same cylinders 8)

H-A

P.S. This is of one running http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=VGL ... =endscreen Nice and quiet.