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piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:08 am
by monninkyla
Hello all,
Does anyone know what the diameter of a century piston is. I`ve sucessfully managed to break a ring on the 120 ferrier .
The piston diameter is 5.5cms.
If this is impossible to obtain I wondered would the motor run on one ring ?

thanks in advance

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:42 am
by charlesp
Not impossible at all. Just contact John (who hosts this forum via the main SOS web site) and he will happily and promptly supply you with new rings.

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:00 pm
by monninkyla
Thanks I was a bit hesitant to contact John as I was uncertain as to whether the Ferrier piston was the same diameter as a Seagull one, anyhow I`ve sent an E-mail now so hopefully problem is solved.

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:22 pm
by Charles uk
The bore on a 102 cc Seagull is 56.871mm, so a Seagull ring will be about 6mm too long.

Have you tried searching the web for cast iron ring manufacturers?

It's unlikely that Ferrier were large enough to commission their own pistons so check out Villiers piston sizes that were made around that time.

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:54 pm
by charlesp
My apologies - I should have read your post properly...

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:38 pm
by monninkyla
thanks I´ll check the web out.

Didn`t know that its possible to have one made up so, where there`s a will there`s a ....... piston ring !

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:26 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
http://www.enginads.com/otto/

From what the American outboard enthusiasts say these are the people to use.

I have not used them myself, but could be worth an email.

H-A

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:48 pm
by Charles uk
As the questioner omitted to put his location it's impossible to know where to send him for the closest supplier, Villiers & Atco both used 55 mm pistons, so the rings should be fairly available here in the uk.

Subject to the questioner know the material, dimensions & pin location/size details.

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:10 pm
by StephenRT
I believe that the Villiers Mk.12 engines were 55mm bore but I think they were side valve four strokes and may not have had pegged rings which is what I imagine you need.No doubt they could be modified if the rings are the correct thickness.

Re: piston ring

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:14 pm
by monninkyla
thanks everyone
I have e-mailed coventry metaling and boring . Just to say as way of explanation that I´m in finland and it was minus 23 degrees celsius when I broke the ring. It is the first and hopefully last ring I break but it seemed to break very easily (maybe because of the cold ?)

Anyhow its now a balmy 2 degrees now so I´ll have no excuse next time !.

Re: piston ring

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:00 am
by monninkyla
Thanks manifold

Wrote to coventry metaling and boring this is their reply:

Good Morning

This is not something we can help you with but you might try Thorntons of Shrewsbury.
Tel No:017430357081

Regards Pete

So still at the stage of finding a place that will make them up. Thanks anyhow.

Re: piston ring

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:19 pm
by Collector Inspector
If you get absolutely stuck and no joy, PM me with the height and width of the rings. I have a cylinder here for the rest. (I am not pulling a running motor apart for those measurements as you would appreciate). I can get imperial ring sizes supplied here. Usually AU$18.00 each and you will have to gap and file them for your application. I have probs with American rings as they went their own silly way back then so get whatever from the states in that case.

Let me know after you try everything else first, pleased to help.

Nice to confirm that WE are still a Colony with true values eh? :shock:

Regards

B

Re: piston ring

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:09 pm
by monninkyla
thanks B

I have several leads here yet to pursue (or rather get them to reply to my E-mails). Still with winter only just losing its grip I can imagine people are reluctant to go through stuff looking for old rings.

There`s quite an industrial base here still so having one made up must be poss. Anyhow thanks for your help.

regards
J

Re: piston ring

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:07 am
by Collector Inspector