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Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:43 pm
by Niander101
How much?

Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:44 pm
by Oyster 49
I wasnt actually intending to sell them
However if somebody wanted one I could make one up.
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:46 pm
by charlesp
I use a Screwfix pipe bender, which although not exactly designed for the correct pipe allows you to use it, with excellent results. Getting hold of exactly the right copper pipe is, however, a pain.
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:18 pm
by Oyster 49
I bought a pipe bender tool off eBay which seems to work ok, I need to play around with it a bit though. The pipe I also ordered off eBay, but most classic car or bike suppliers have it in copper or nickel.
The end ferrules for the 7/16 nut are not so easy to find.
Next one to try is the curly little 40 one

Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:06 am
by Chilli Dog
Looking good , your providing the inspiration for me to get my act together and make some fuel lines .

Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:22 am
by Oyster 49
Go for it Chilli! The bending tools are cheap on ebay, as is the tube. The ferrules and nuts have to be hunted down and ordered. It's quite satisfying and the SD tube only took 10 minutes to bend. It's best if you leave a little length at each end and trim that off when you are happy with the shape. Will look nice on your polished up 102

Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:07 pm
by Oyster 49
This is my first go at reproducing the FVP fuel pipe. The original banjo seems to be made out of a small casting, so I took a flexi pipe end and removed the hose tail, drilled out to 1/4 and then polished up the brass fitting. The pipe is cupro-nickel and is a fairly good match for the original. The brass nut and ferrule are actually the wrong size, I'm waiting for the plated nut and matching ferrules to arrive, which will make it a real close replica, 5 minutes with the blow torch and solder will finish the job.
Next one will be the curly FV pipe.
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:25 pm
by Keith.P
That doesn't look like an FVP fuel pipe, I think you mean FV.
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:44 pm
by Oyster 49
My understanding was that the FV has the "coiled up" fuel pipe, and the FVP does not. Thats certainly the case on the FV and FVP I have. However this picture shows them the other way around

So I actually don't know.
http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/im ... vp&lsl.jpg
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:44 pm
by Keith.P
I am no expert, but from what I can see the right hand motor looks like it has a minus box so it is not a P, the left one has a four bladed prop which could mean it is a late motor. The middle one has a plus box, so I think that's an early FVP. I have two FVP's in the shed, both original parts and both have curly fuel pipes.
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:07 pm
by Charles uk
I always thought both the FV & the FVP had the curley wurley fuel pipe, perhaps we had better wait for the other Charles to make his input as I can't think of anyone who has owned more of this model than him.
Isn't the left hand motor a bitsa or a 40+?
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:22 pm
by charlesp
Those three are as they arrived. After a lot of considering and head scratching I realised that some plagiarist had not in fact pinched my engine stand, but these were in fact my own motors, pictured on my own stand, in my own garden.
I can't vouch for what type of pipe was fitted when they left the factory in what year, but I can tell you the coiled ones are early. It doesn't depend on FV or FVP, it's more a question of when they were assembled.
No Charles the one on the left isn't a bitsa, how very dare you! It's a long shaft LS. It's the only long shaft LS I've encountered.
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:34 am
by Charles uk
I stand corrected.
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:59 am
by Chilli Dog
Re: 40 minus Restoration
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:23 am
by Collector Inspector
Advancing with pipes, has to be all good
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