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Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:59 pm
by Hugz
Good opportunity to bed the brushes to same shape as the armature. A bit of emery paper reversed on the armature. Less spark more startup torque under load. Bearings good? Paper insulation... been a while since I've seen that.

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:35 pm
by AusAnzani
Great work Tam.

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:46 pm
by AusAnzani
Hugz wrote:That is coming up well. Controller works on ohms law. Electrical current is proportional to voltage and inversely proportional to resistance. So not enough current passing through globe to make a difference to voltage. Am l correct Spiro? :shock:
Sounds good lol.

Second last sentence has me scratching my head a little, but I think I know what you mean. Its a simple voltage divide network with one variable element (the controller). So if the impedance of the controller is much much lower than the impedance of the globe, adjustment of the controller may have little effect on how brightly the globe shines.

PS: Tam is getting great advice from both yourself and Nudge here. It's nice to see the forums back in good shape.

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:10 pm
by tambikeboy
There's always a way :P

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:37 pm
by tambikeboy
The wee midgie is now a runner.... :lol:missing a bakalite on/off knob shouldn't be too hard to find :lol:

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:08 pm
by tambikeboy
Made a Start on this one non sparking noticed the points aren't functioning how does this flywheel come away... :oops:

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:35 pm
by Hugz
Looking good! Rubber grommet where cable comes out if using a lot.

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:44 am
by tambikeboy
Hugz wrote:Looking good! Rubber grommet where cable comes out if using a lot.
Waiting on a selection of grommets and a bakalite knobs coming...

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:16 am
by Nudge
how does this flywheel come away...
Looks like you will need to make a puller (flat plate with holes that match the ones in the flywheel) find some bolts that fit in the holes in the flywheel.
Put the nut on the crank so it is just undone a bit. put the plate with the holes in over the top, then wind the bolts evenly and it should pop off. If it feel like it is getting too tight you may need to give it a tap to help it.

If you bend or break anything it is not my fault user discretion advised!

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:41 pm
by tambikeboy
Nice one china i think this has its own puller attached tried what you suggested with these parts it started to bend round plate so think I'll have to get heavier gauge plate and bolts to suit cheers...

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:21 am
by Nudge
Dem bolts look a bit sick :cry:
where they like that or did you do it to them while trying to remove the flywheel?
Put some WD40 down the taper for a day or two then have another look.

Be patient grasshopper!

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:46 pm
by tambikeboy
After making up a wee puller I thought I'd give it a go not a shread of movement so back to the drawing board Here's my thoughts please check pic 7 could this flywheel be threaded.

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:49 pm
by tambikeboy
Last 3 pics any thoughts welcome...low and behold it's bending the puller..... :oops:

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:26 am
by Nudge
I think it may be a JAP model "O" type 2 34cc two-stroke engine (the type 2 or 28 are the same apart from where the spark plug is)

This may / may not help https://sellfy.com/p/AbD5/

And this https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97298

Re: Non seagull outboard I. D

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:59 pm
by tambikeboy
Many thanks nudge the head is now of longer bolt and a heavier hammer done the trick. :oops: