Saving Old Seagulls

Hear hear Hugz.. must find a cheep way to transport across Australia first though

AJ

Smartsend I have found to be the most economical.

https://www.smartsend.com.au/

After a phone call to CHARLES UK the other day, i think i can answer why you might not see too many AC's down under, its the same in the UK as well.
The clutch option was a pricey thing to have back in the day.
My data on 102's backs this up also. There are dozens of AD's but very few AC's.
Scarce (maybe) but there would suggest buying habits of the 1950's would have been a lot more conservative. After all, rationing was still in effect from the war at that point so money was tight? The price difference between an AD and an AC would be similar to 1 or 2 weeks wages back then. Food for thought.

jon

It was 4 weeks wages at national average Jon, translate that into todays money, £25k pa national average, don't think I need a clutch that bad!

Maybe the colonials didn't think our indigenous friends where not up to more than direct drive

http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/no ... the%20load.

My bad CHARLES! Thanks for the correction.

Pricey things these clutches all the same

Makes you think though the price difference in these seagulls back then doesn't it?

jon

The last thing I suspect anyone on an average wage back then would buy would be a Seagull clutch of no clutch. my father a fitter/labourer, working in a plastic factory, was probably on or just below the average wage.. No boat and no Seagull; whereas my friends architect father was perhaps on 10 times the average wage (surmising due to the cars and houses) and he did have boats and Seagulls. so I suspect, as I think Charles noted in an earlier post, that the real buyers were the middle class.
Never the less, with a high $ differential between clutch and no clutch coupled with BS marketing suggesting that a "competent sailor" didn't require a clutch probably made the difference. Having a clutch drive would make one feel bit inferior to the chap who was skilled in boat handling and therefore, as per BS, didn't need one.

AJ

Would the gearbox fitted be from a TD or WC later model?

I believe that an AC should be more like this one. I have a couple floating about somewhere.....

Still getting the 2012 Epic move sorted .
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102 gearboxes of this age (1950/1) according to the engine identifier, i'm fairly certain would have had the "sub ejector" pump housing along with NO OIL NIPPLES.
1949 going into 1950 may have seen the phasing out of the oil nipples (as per SD's) from 3 to 2 (missing 1 in the pump housing at first) then only 1 bigger one in the main casing(which probably coincides with the arrival of the "sub ejector" pump housing)
The picture you've put up looks spot on to me.
Direct drive gearboxes were exactly the same (but without a clutch)
Still trying to work out whether the end cap would have had the drain plug at this time.(they probably did) it makes sense that with no oil nipples, how do you get lubrication into the box?

Interesting that some gearboxes i've looked at have studs/nuts attaching the end cap instead of screws!

jon

sold for $200 Hope it when to a good home I was tempted right to the end but resisted

AJ

don't think so I bet that a higher bid would have invited a jump also I had to consider the shipping to Tasmania best quote I got from Pack and Send was $300. that made it unviable. Hugz suggested Smart send but put a size limit of 400 x 400 x 400 so wouldn't quote Theme's the breaks!

AJ

so did B get it then?

"so did B get it then?"

Yes he did.

Being picked up 19th Nov from Queensland by Smart Send to my door...........Ships cat is going to be put out coz I have "Another One"

I am pleased and have lots of bits to get the Old Dear back to scratch.

How did you guess me?

Cheers

B

Congrats on the win, was hovering over it as im close. but have my eye on a EH, but its and 800 k trip, to colect. So well done.