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Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:13 pm
by Keith.P
blue metal, seems to be The common fine-grained blue grey mud stone which is part of many of the coal beds of England, a hard rock, bluish in color, which is crushed and used in macadam, I used to be a crusher operator, amount other things, for MOT and the like and I didn't know that either.
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:25 am
by 2dogsnight
well....I do have some gravel, hot water and soap
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:02 pm
by Adrian Dale
I think you need smaller stones that have sharp broken surfaces so they will get into all the nooks and crannies. Actually I only use degreaser and then flush out, never seems to be a problem.
AJ
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:12 pm
by phil
Would be good if at least some were sharper, the smallest 4 look the right size. They need to have good clearance from the filler hole as they need to come out of there as well. Could easily break some up with a 6 lb. hammer, put them in a strong but flexible bag and a couple of good shots with the hammer should do it.
Some use drywall screws or regular nuts and bolts.
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:34 pm
by Adrian Dale
Took a couple of photos, first of blue metal and the second of gravel . The blue metal comes in various sizes all the way down to 5mm. The example in the photo is 25 mm.
The photo of the gravel is from a Tasmanian road. I have some 30 kl of this to drive to reach our house so I often have a grumble at the state of the pot holes and washout that need negotiating. About once ever 6 months the council runs a grader you and down the road to reshape it.
AJ
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:34 am
by 2dogsnight
Adrian,I have the same gravel on my driveway like you do. I will do some more cleaning this coming weekend. The idea of cleaning the tank with degreaser and call it good - resonates with me well tonight

I think I may try to start it up this weekend too.....would like to see if I will get good stream of cooling water going trough the motor....and how it will run in an idle.
Thank you for your input guys!!
Wojo
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:51 am
by Collector Inspector
I use a light chain. Twice as heavy as a bath plug pull chain. With fav cleaning chemical.
About 2ft will do as any longer and it will become really wound around the internal bits.
No actual shaking just............swilling about? Use a cap with no retaining spring thingy and take any filter off a tap. Or use a plug etc.
It is quite calming actually and there is no trying to get that last rattling bit of bluemetal out.
Happy Swishing Aye.
B
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:19 am
by Adrian Dale
your not pulling my chain are you B !
AJ
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:33 am
by Collector Inspector
Any Chain and Any Time Mate.
B
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:30 pm
by phil
The " blue metal" you show is the size and sharpness we get if we order driveway gravel or drain rock ( drain rock for house foundation drains, goes around the perforated black plastic pipe.)
The stuff on your driveway would be under the gravel we use, it would be called pit run sand or pit run gravel.
Interesting differences between various forms of the English language.
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:06 pm
by headdownarseup
Here's another way to clean out an old tank.
(bear in mind this will work better on brass tanks than steel tanks)
Firstly, empty out any old fuel/oil mix that might be in there. Remove the fuel tap and replace with a suitable bung of some kind. (i use the blanking plug from the later steel tanks)
Secondly, add a couple of spoonfulls of sharp sand (we call it building sand over here, quite coarse in texture) and add about 1/2 pint of water to the tank, refit the fuel cap and swirl away for about 30 mins.
Empty the contents from the tank and flush out with a garden hose.
Just to make sure, i then give everything a good soaking with caustic soda for a couple of days, periodically giving the tank a little shake.
Flush out any nasties and leave to dry. Repaint the outside and finish with a new decal from JOHN.
Works a treat
Steel tanks need to be treated differently.
Depending on how mechanically adept you are cut the tank in half along its seam(making sure there is absolutely no trace of fuel which could cause an explosion

)
So with 2 halves of the tank now exposed you'll see the extent of the corrosion. (it's at this point you think "why did i do this"

and look for another brass tank)
Treat the rust/corrosion with proprietry brands of chemicals, wire brushes,rust converters etc. weld the 2 halves back together and repaint the outside.
To be doubly sure that corrosion is kept to a minimum, there are some brands of tank sealer on the market. (originally used in the motorcycle industry)
Add the contents to the tank, and with a bit of luck, you'll have a steel tank that will last for quite a while.
Just my two penneth
jon
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:05 pm
by 2dogsnight
OK...I have everything back together, and today I started the motor.
Test went well and I am ready to install it on the boat.
....could not attach video
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:18 am
by Collector Inspector
Very Good!
Sea Trial aye?
B
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:52 pm
by 2dogsnight
thank you !
I took it out this morning, added little more gas to the tank.....could not start for maybe 10 pulls...but finally did.
Did not try any close to full speed, but learned from this trial a lot. To start I need and extended tiller - and I standard extension will not be long enough, because I need to sit in the middle of the boat length.
here is a video from Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/wojo.mcwalczak ... nref=story
Re: 79 Forty plus, clutch, long shaft
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:57 pm
by 2dogsnight
went out again last weekend. had a 4' long tiller extension mounted....seems that steering with the motor is not that good, probably because of the long tiller. Not sure if I had the motor going full speed....the rpm did change once during running it. I ws expecting the boat go little faster - max HP for this boat is 7hp....and forty plus is only 2-3 hp....
https://www.facebook.com/wojo.mcwalczak ... nref=story