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Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:30 pm
by Collector Inspector
3 Gulls on a transom?

HANDFUL Aye?

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Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:28 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
Collector Inspector wrote:3 Gulls on a transom?

HANDFUL Aye?

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not so bad :)

H-A

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:40 pm
by david doyle
Wow those flapping coat tails and flywheels, sorry kids santa wont be coming this year, bit of grafting to get done.

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:00 pm
by Charles uk
No handfull if you fix 2 & steer one!

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:45 am
by Collector Inspector
:lol:

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Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:19 am
by cajuncook1
Well gentlemen, I finally got time to make a little video of the old dear running!!!

Remember this is the 1964 Forty Plus SPJ that I put OMC coil on a Villiers core and coil laminates.

Question: What are the running temps on this motor?

I got 220F flat on the cylinder head near the spark plug. Is this area cooled by water?

I got 144F on the side of the powerhead and near the crankcase.

Are these normal temps?? It's about 90F outside today :D



Just click on the pictures for the video to play.


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Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:08 am
by Hugz
A rabbit!

Are they wild in urban areas? :shock:

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:30 am
by cajuncook1
Hugz wrote:A rabbit!

Are they wild in urban areas? :shock:

Yes, they have a lot of rabbits in our neighborhoods. Especially during the dry times. The communities have good pet control, so nothing really bothers them.

David

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:38 pm
by phil
Great to see it running well! Surprised you have the part already!

The head has no water passages, but if there is a build up of stuff in the water jacket area, heat conduction away from the head might not be as fast. Some folks like to clean the water jacket when they get the motor, can't remember if you said it was a salt water motor or not. Even so a fresh water motor can have lime and mud as well as rust partially clogging the water jacket passages. The water flow looked a little low, but I think the prop was on, and long shaft motors tend to not pump as well as short shaft motors.

The exit water should show about a 20-30 F temperature rise from what you have in the bucket when it is producing a good flow, the water will be quite hot at first when rev'd up if it has idled with no water flow for quite a while. Like 2-3 minutes.

Was it a long shaft? To assess the water flow when run in a bucket, they usually recommend taking the prop off which gives similar results to what you might see on a boat.

I found a new coil and measured the dia and it was smaller than the ones I tried, looks to be about 43.8 mm with a cheapo plastic caliper. Will measure with a proper caliper and get back with that measurement.

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:03 pm
by skyetoyman
You must remove the prop when running a direct drive in a tub. Turbulence from the prop will prevent pick up.

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:53 pm
by Keith.P
You must remove the prop when running a direct drive in a tub
I have never removed a prop to run a motor in a water butt or tank.

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:06 pm
by cajuncook1
Phil, the motor is a long shaft. The previous owner did not know its history. He purchase a sailboat some years back and the motor was on it. He stated he never used the motor. He purchased the boat on a fresh water lake.

Thanks guys for the suggestion about the removing the prop when testing in a bucket. I remember reading an article about that.


Have any of you tried the extended water tube method to improve water flow a idle or low speeds?

Here is a video of someone doing that.

http://youtu.be/cfjpVoazL2Q

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:22 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
Keith.P wrote:
You must remove the prop when running a direct drive in a tub
I have never removed a prop to run a motor in a water butt or tank.
I have never removed a prop to run a motor in a water butt or tank.

H-A

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:29 pm
by phil
Seems to me most of them pump just fine with the prop on. I'm using half of a 205 liter barrel. ( 55 US Gal. 45 Imp. gal.)
I suppose it might be dicey with a 23 liter pail.

Re: OMC coil on Villiers core

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:17 am
by skyetoyman
Try it with a clutched seagull. Run with it in gear and out and see the difference in flow.