Andy has reminded me we have not yet publicised the Bygone Days event yet. So here goes:
First weekend in August, at Ibsley Aerodrome, noy far from Fordingbridge. This event centres round old stuff, which includes Motor Bikes, Cars, Agricultural equipment, stationary engines and the like.
Last year there was a stand devoted entirely to antique blowlamps, one of old spectacles (yes really) and even one showing old shoes. And they regard Andy and myself as being eccentric and odd for bringing along a selection of Seagulls...
Together we'll be displaying (probably):
OA - OF - OJ - SN - SD - FV - FVP
All running in the tank, lots of smoke, lots of noise.
Everyone comes to the show just to see these classic motors. It couldn't possibly be the classic aircraft like the P51 Mustang that gave us a wonderful display last year, or the Puss Moth, or the Bucker Jungmeister. No - it's the Marstons!
Naturally there's food, tea & coffee, cider, beer, ice cream. And a band, free parking, steam engine rides, and all the rest.
Oh and there's free camping facilities too.
First weekend in August, both Saturday and Sunday. Two quid to get in. That's right, less than a pint of beer (well in my local anyway).
Come to our stand and have a cup of tea. This is England at its best.
Bygone Days Ibsley 2008
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Ibsley day out
Charles your reminder should be upgraded to a sticky! If you have room for another body I would like to join you and Andy at Ibsley,I have practice at serving tea and other odd jobs.If its a yes I will definitely be there on the day.
Would you mind if I brought along my Volvo B21?, its an interesting lump of an outboard, boxer twin engine, lots of brass,copper and and bronze, a polishers dream!
Regards Ray
Would you mind if I brought along my Volvo B21?, its an interesting lump of an outboard, boxer twin engine, lots of brass,copper and and bronze, a polishers dream!
Regards Ray
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You'll be very welcome.
Your shiny Volvo sounds interesting; I'm sure our British Flock will welcome her.
I still haven't got round to finalising with Andy what exactly we will take, but probably not far from our original list. We will almost certainly stick to Seagulls.
Look forward to seeing you there...
Your shiny Volvo sounds interesting; I'm sure our British Flock will welcome her.
I still haven't got round to finalising with Andy what exactly we will take, but probably not far from our original list. We will almost certainly stick to Seagulls.
Look forward to seeing you there...
Ibsley day out
Thank you for the invite Charles,
Do you want me to bring along some goodies to hand out with the tea, crumpets perhaps?I
just thought that I should reply to get Ibsley to the top again, out of 99 watchers the expectation of meeting some SOS members must be high.
Come on you lot lets see big support for this one, put it your diary now!!!
Its a great opportunity to get up close to and to photograph some very rare and desirable seagull engines.
Regards Ray
Do you want me to bring along some goodies to hand out with the tea, crumpets perhaps?I
just thought that I should reply to get Ibsley to the top again, out of 99 watchers the expectation of meeting some SOS members must be high.
Come on you lot lets see big support for this one, put it your diary now!!!
Its a great opportunity to get up close to and to photograph some very rare and desirable seagull engines.
Regards Ray
We now have available the offer of a cutaway Seagull for this display.
We can't decide which one would generate the most interest, and there's only room for one because of the available space in my Peugeot.
So we'll put it to the vote...
Which cutaway Seagull would you like to see:
Forty Plus ?
102 ?
EFNR ?
!
Let us know here
We can't decide which one would generate the most interest, and there's only room for one because of the available space in my Peugeot.
So we'll put it to the vote...
Which cutaway Seagull would you like to see:
Forty Plus ?
102 ?
EFNR ?
!
Let us know here
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wellllll ...got to be a 102 really, hasn't it ????/
sleeping in the dog box currently ...Mrs discovered the 'flock' seems to have grown by 2 ....
tried to tell her that they mate in the wee hours ...and hey presto, in the morning, a fully grown seagull is added to the nest
sleeping in the dog box currently ...Mrs discovered the 'flock' seems to have grown by 2 ....
tried to tell her that they mate in the wee hours ...and hey presto, in the morning, a fully grown seagull is added to the nest
Neal...errrr... an ON, OP, 2xSD, F, 3xSJP, LLS, 2xFV, FVP, FPC, CPC WPCL, WSC, and a few eggs hatching, hopefully
Hey guys i would just love to be there but it wont happen as im way up north in sunny outer hebrides.....maybe next year
but anyways could you guys take some videos and post on youtube then we could all at least watch....
....especialy ive never seen a marston or a twin seagull running!....is it possible?
but anyways could you guys take some videos and post on youtube then we could all at least watch....
....especialy ive never seen a marston or a twin seagull running!....is it possible?
Now added to the list,
Cutaway 110. That's the EFNR. Oh, I know it's only a new one, but anyone reading this forum and going to something like Bygone Days likes cogs and pistons and stuff. This is the complete motor, you can peer into all its nooks and crannies (Ooh Err missus!).
Cutaway 40 Plus with clutch. Gearbox only, the rest of it is having a leave of absence. Now there aren't many of these around. I have spent hours this morning shifting the lever and thinking how nice it is to waggle one end and see the other bits move. My current Primary Woman reckons I'll grow up one day, but not soon. She'll be there too. Getting her daughter there too would be good, she'd draw the crowds, but strangely for a 20 year old girl she's busy elsewhere. She can start a Seagull, however, unlike my own daughter who only sees an oily thing that might damage her fingernails.
Cutaway 102. Complete with White bird decal. Bird does not have both wings. Crankcase is missing, but as it's identical to the 110 that's OK. This really is a rarity. Well they all are really.
So those three, with Marston teardrops of varying types including Andy's fabulous OF, 102s, the only remaining SN that we know of, a P51 Mustang (that's actually not mine or Andy's), classic bikes, classic cars (proper old ones not just Ford Capris and the like) Military vehicles. Antique shoes (really!) Antique blowlamps. Even antique spectacles, would you believe.
And more stationary engines than you can shake a stick at. (Why do they call them stationary when they're all in motion?)
Smoke, noise, the smell of oil, the rasp of Seagulls and Rolls Royce Merlins, guaranteed sunshine, who could resist. Yes there is beer available.
See you there...
Cutaway 110. That's the EFNR. Oh, I know it's only a new one, but anyone reading this forum and going to something like Bygone Days likes cogs and pistons and stuff. This is the complete motor, you can peer into all its nooks and crannies (Ooh Err missus!).
Cutaway 40 Plus with clutch. Gearbox only, the rest of it is having a leave of absence. Now there aren't many of these around. I have spent hours this morning shifting the lever and thinking how nice it is to waggle one end and see the other bits move. My current Primary Woman reckons I'll grow up one day, but not soon. She'll be there too. Getting her daughter there too would be good, she'd draw the crowds, but strangely for a 20 year old girl she's busy elsewhere. She can start a Seagull, however, unlike my own daughter who only sees an oily thing that might damage her fingernails.
Cutaway 102. Complete with White bird decal. Bird does not have both wings. Crankcase is missing, but as it's identical to the 110 that's OK. This really is a rarity. Well they all are really.
So those three, with Marston teardrops of varying types including Andy's fabulous OF, 102s, the only remaining SN that we know of, a P51 Mustang (that's actually not mine or Andy's), classic bikes, classic cars (proper old ones not just Ford Capris and the like) Military vehicles. Antique shoes (really!) Antique blowlamps. Even antique spectacles, would you believe.
And more stationary engines than you can shake a stick at. (Why do they call them stationary when they're all in motion?)
Smoke, noise, the smell of oil, the rasp of Seagulls and Rolls Royce Merlins, guaranteed sunshine, who could resist. Yes there is beer available.
See you there...
We thought we were going to display the oldest surviving OA, which Andyhas been tinkering with. It'll be there, but it's no longer the oldest because we have discovered two that are even earlier!
Never mind.
Final list :
OA - 2 x OF - OJ - OP - SNP - SD - FV
plus the cut away ones.
Rumours of a Westland Lysander flying, too, but |I can't confirm that.
I'd love to think they had the newly restored Vulcan bomber, but they haven't. Shame!
Never mind.
Final list :
OA - 2 x OF - OJ - OP - SNP - SD - FV
plus the cut away ones.
Rumours of a Westland Lysander flying, too, but |I can't confirm that.
I'd love to think they had the newly restored Vulcan bomber, but they haven't. Shame!
Today started drizzly and overcast, but things cleared up before lunch and it turned into a typically sunny Ibsley.
Ray came along to join us, Peter's coming tomorrow.
We have been entertaining a constant stream of interested visitors, and we have been running my FV, OP, and SD in the tank together with Ray's rather nice AD, Andy's OF and his superb OJ. Ray's impressive early Volvo with bronze bottom end and horizontally opposed cylinders was a challenge for a while, but ran successfully after a little TLC. Funny how a working engine attracts only a glance, but one with that's not cooperating draws a crowd...
Bucker Jungmeister, 1950's Taylorcraft Auster, and Piper Cub were the aircraft visiting, tomorrow Percival Prince and P51 Mustang.
I still want to know how the chap with a .50 cal Browning machine gun mounted on his jeep managed to get a firearm certificate.
I still want to know how the champion radio controlled airplane fella learnt to do that.
We made some new friends (including the very pleasant daughter of the lady who single handedly applied all the 'Sailorman' decals at the factory for years and years), also including the B.S. production manager, and numerous friendly folk who smiled with fond recollection of the times they owned a Seagull. Wish we had a pound each for evry time someone told us they had one at home.
Thanks, Liz, for the tea, coffee, sandwiches, burgers, pork pies. Thanks Andy for the day, onwards and upwards tomorrow!
Plans for Sunday include the other OF, we'll have a bash at getting the earliest running OA going, and a first attempt at firing up the only recorded SN (first indications are that the bearings are worn and there's no spark, so confidence is not terribly high. But we have Mr Magneto on the job, so who knows.
Lots of internal combustion, smoke, the bark of a seagull. Heaven.
10.30 start, so bit of a lie in.
I am knackered.
Ray came along to join us, Peter's coming tomorrow.
We have been entertaining a constant stream of interested visitors, and we have been running my FV, OP, and SD in the tank together with Ray's rather nice AD, Andy's OF and his superb OJ. Ray's impressive early Volvo with bronze bottom end and horizontally opposed cylinders was a challenge for a while, but ran successfully after a little TLC. Funny how a working engine attracts only a glance, but one with that's not cooperating draws a crowd...
Bucker Jungmeister, 1950's Taylorcraft Auster, and Piper Cub were the aircraft visiting, tomorrow Percival Prince and P51 Mustang.
I still want to know how the chap with a .50 cal Browning machine gun mounted on his jeep managed to get a firearm certificate.
I still want to know how the champion radio controlled airplane fella learnt to do that.
We made some new friends (including the very pleasant daughter of the lady who single handedly applied all the 'Sailorman' decals at the factory for years and years), also including the B.S. production manager, and numerous friendly folk who smiled with fond recollection of the times they owned a Seagull. Wish we had a pound each for evry time someone told us they had one at home.
Thanks, Liz, for the tea, coffee, sandwiches, burgers, pork pies. Thanks Andy for the day, onwards and upwards tomorrow!
Plans for Sunday include the other OF, we'll have a bash at getting the earliest running OA going, and a first attempt at firing up the only recorded SN (first indications are that the bearings are worn and there's no spark, so confidence is not terribly high. But we have Mr Magneto on the job, so who knows.
Lots of internal combustion, smoke, the bark of a seagull. Heaven.
10.30 start, so bit of a lie in.
I am knackered.
Day 2 started dodging the showers again, but all was well by opening time.
Andy has spent a while today lovingly trying to coax a spark out of my SNP, but the magneto has been subjected to a bit of abuse in the past, and it was not to be. So he swapped out the magneto from his lovely 1934 OF, and off she went. Very satisfying. That just has to be the only SN ever to run with an ignition advance retard.
Bucker Jungmeister and De Havilland Tiger Moth duo overhead, sunshine, fairground organ, and an overdose from upwind of the coal smoke from the steam locomotives next door - marvellous, time for a wander round. Duck and turkey eggs, haven't tasted them for forty years or more, better wait for the anticipated visit from Current Primary Woman. But I did buy a large jar of pickled onions whose spicy lethality suggest that the original recipe may have come from Porton Down.
Peter arrived, and we chatted for a while, then lo and behold another forum membr (Richard) arrived and casually produced the much discussed but never seen original version of the Little Model Forty. This lovely little motor sports an Amal carb, complete with the complicated choke whose factory origins I have hitherto disbelieved, and displays numerous variations from the accepted 'Little Model Forty' norm. I will post later about this motor, it is an important step in the understanding of the transitional forties. I'm at the home of the Current PW right now, the camera lead is at home, so I'll save that stuff for later.
We have had a constant stream of visitors, many commenting on the Model 90/110 cutaway, we've had lots of questions, we've had lots of snippets of the all-valuable background to these motors, and we've had a lot of fun.
Thanks are due to Ray, Peter, and Richard, for turning up and joining this enjoyable little event, they are due to Andy and Liz for making it possible and the coffee and rolls and gazebo, and they are due to the organisers for a lovely weekend.
Thanks too to Andy for the finale on our stand, when he ran his immaculate and untouched long shaft Model OF, which is not only a superb example of an FNR Marston, but it is one that starts and runs - in Andy's words - like a bar of chocolate. Sweet and smooth she certainly is, but she's quiet as a whisper too.
What a wonderful weekend.
CPW made it over there, too. So did next door neighbours. We all had a great weekend. The Mustang made it too, late this afternoon. 'Big Beautiful Doll' is a magnificent P51, the sound of her super quiet approach breaking into the whistling, roaring, crashing crescendo of a high speed pass really does take the breath away.
But for me the OF and the 'Little Model Forty' define the day.
Thanks, folks. Tired but happy, like the ending to all the very best children's stories.
Andy has spent a while today lovingly trying to coax a spark out of my SNP, but the magneto has been subjected to a bit of abuse in the past, and it was not to be. So he swapped out the magneto from his lovely 1934 OF, and off she went. Very satisfying. That just has to be the only SN ever to run with an ignition advance retard.
Bucker Jungmeister and De Havilland Tiger Moth duo overhead, sunshine, fairground organ, and an overdose from upwind of the coal smoke from the steam locomotives next door - marvellous, time for a wander round. Duck and turkey eggs, haven't tasted them for forty years or more, better wait for the anticipated visit from Current Primary Woman. But I did buy a large jar of pickled onions whose spicy lethality suggest that the original recipe may have come from Porton Down.
Peter arrived, and we chatted for a while, then lo and behold another forum membr (Richard) arrived and casually produced the much discussed but never seen original version of the Little Model Forty. This lovely little motor sports an Amal carb, complete with the complicated choke whose factory origins I have hitherto disbelieved, and displays numerous variations from the accepted 'Little Model Forty' norm. I will post later about this motor, it is an important step in the understanding of the transitional forties. I'm at the home of the Current PW right now, the camera lead is at home, so I'll save that stuff for later.
We have had a constant stream of visitors, many commenting on the Model 90/110 cutaway, we've had lots of questions, we've had lots of snippets of the all-valuable background to these motors, and we've had a lot of fun.
Thanks are due to Ray, Peter, and Richard, for turning up and joining this enjoyable little event, they are due to Andy and Liz for making it possible and the coffee and rolls and gazebo, and they are due to the organisers for a lovely weekend.
Thanks too to Andy for the finale on our stand, when he ran his immaculate and untouched long shaft Model OF, which is not only a superb example of an FNR Marston, but it is one that starts and runs - in Andy's words - like a bar of chocolate. Sweet and smooth she certainly is, but she's quiet as a whisper too.
What a wonderful weekend.
CPW made it over there, too. So did next door neighbours. We all had a great weekend. The Mustang made it too, late this afternoon. 'Big Beautiful Doll' is a magnificent P51, the sound of her super quiet approach breaking into the whistling, roaring, crashing crescendo of a high speed pass really does take the breath away.
But for me the OF and the 'Little Model Forty' define the day.
Thanks, folks. Tired but happy, like the ending to all the very best children's stories.
Here's the Marston OF magneto (without a cover) whizzing round on top of my SNP. Note the little 'handle' on the points cover. I include this one 'coz despite the lack of detail I rather like the picture..
And here's a photo of the intriguing little Amal carb on Richard's completely original 'Little Model Forty' model F. I still can't fing the bit of paper on which I noted the reference, so if anyone recognises this carburettor please let us know.. I have posted on this board today regarding other differences between the 'F' and the 'FV'. The fabric is in fact Peter, who was taking photos at the same time.
This is the lineup of Marstons for this year, Andy's OJ, two OF's (long and short) and what we think is the earliest running OA (that we know of). My OP is not as shiny, so is out of shot! The one on the right is Ray's Volvo. Like a cuckoo in the nest of Seagulls, we allowed it in because of all that bronze. Ray himself' less bronzed, is ministering to it.
And finally here is that superb OF, the one that runs like a bar of chocolate..
And here's a photo of the intriguing little Amal carb on Richard's completely original 'Little Model Forty' model F. I still can't fing the bit of paper on which I noted the reference, so if anyone recognises this carburettor please let us know.. I have posted on this board today regarding other differences between the 'F' and the 'FV'. The fabric is in fact Peter, who was taking photos at the same time.
This is the lineup of Marstons for this year, Andy's OJ, two OF's (long and short) and what we think is the earliest running OA (that we know of). My OP is not as shiny, so is out of shot! The one on the right is Ray's Volvo. Like a cuckoo in the nest of Seagulls, we allowed it in because of all that bronze. Ray himself' less bronzed, is ministering to it.
And finally here is that superb OF, the one that runs like a bar of chocolate..