New to gulls looking for advice.

[fergalb]

Hi guys I just picked this with the intension of doing it up, it's in a bit of a state and looks like someone has already been playing around with it as some bolts and other bits are missing I have never worked on one before and have no idea if it's even worth the effort. As far as I can tell it's a 102 engine number AC39232L making it 54-55 any advice welcome even if it's to tell me to dump it

[Keith.P]

Its well worth some attention, it has some parts that could do with replacing, but its basically all there.
I would first get shot of the recoil starter, it would look a lot better for it, they are normally fitted by pensioners or the criminally insane.
You could clean it up and use it as is or restore to original, whatever floats you boat.

[skyetoyman]

Lots of things missing or wrong but nothing that cannot be sorted. I love the 102's. Easiest of all seagulls to get working again , and yes - ditch the recoil.

I would first get shot of the recoil starter, it would look a lot better for it, they are normally fitted by pensioners or the criminally insane.

Don't upset Charles - you may need his advice some time.

[fergalb]

Thanks guys, the plan is to bring it back to to a nice shinny finish I also got this thrown in with it LLSL 1528B3 but there is even more missing off it.

[headdownarseup]

yep
your LLS is a bitsa.
the powerhead is definitely LLS but the bottom end is all 102 longshaft clutched.
interesting if you could find all the parts to get this one going again.

with your AC absolutely do not chuck it in the bin.
well worth restoring this one. as already mentioned there are a few missmatches on parts but easily obtained.
good solid motor the 102. my favourite.

jon

[JERSEYMAN]

Sorry if I sound like a party pooper but I guess it all depends on (a) how "new" you would want your finished motor to look like, a tidy up and get it running or a full restoration and (b) where you obtain your parts from.

You could spend £200+ on a restoration and end up a motor that is only worth £100, I know this is not the point in restorations but it is a consideration.

The funny thing about Seagulls is that you can pay more for for a transom clamp than a complete motor with the same clamp

If for instance the motor was an SD then.......

[fergalb]

Sorry if I sound like a party pooper but I guess it all depends on (a) how "new" you would want your finished motor to look like, a tidy up and get it running or a full restoration and (b) where you obtain your parts from.

You could spend £200+ on a restoration and end up a motor that is only worth £100, I know this is not the point in restorations but it is a consideration.

The funny thing about Seagulls is that you can pay more for for a transom clamp than a complete motor with the same clamp

If for instance the motor was an SD then.......

I understand what your saying only too well the last engine I did was a 1958 fastwin and I spent over €1000 doing it up

[JERSEYMAN]

Very nice motor,

But it's amazing how the money flies out on "correct" restorations, been there several times

[Keith.P]

Very nice indeed, that's probably why my 18 Fastwin isn't finished.

[Collector Inspector]

Well there you go, you have answered your question re Gull as FT pics result is rather well done. Something to be proud about aye!

So you have a Gull in some shape or form and it looks interesting by the looks yourself to get into it.

Apply some spanners (You may need the correct Few Ones) to see your find proud.

Let us know what you are doing to it and ask any dumb Q along the way. All good.

Hopefully, you will persist.

Old Dears come in many Shapes and Forms .......................The World Over.

Take that as a Fact from Me.

Gulls are Unique in the fact that SO Many were made over SO many years and SO many export markets that........................They are very hard to round up as to being................Original

You may well get the bug and commit a first born in six months time.

Then maybe not.

All Good!

B

[fergalb]

Well I started to strip it down the gear box was sized on the square shaft so I soaked it overnight and was able to work it loose.





The HT lead is gone up inside the flywheel so I guess it will have to come off to get at it. I ordered this one on ebay hope it's the right one http://www.ebay.ie/itm/BRITISH-SEAGULL- ... 4ad568c01c




We shall see I have it upright now with some easing oil on the keyway so I'll give it a go tomorrow.

[Keith.P]

The HT lead is a later one and so is the cap.
If its just a clean and brush up then they will do, but its not original the that age motor.

[fergalb]

The HT lead is a later one and so is the cap.
If its just a clean and brush up then they will do, but its not original the that age motor.

Thanks for that I'll use it for now so I can check for spark and maybe pick up an original later.
Is the Champion D16 the right plug for this, and what am I missing from the carb should it have an aluminium storm guard and a choke or is it just a little trumpet piece I'm missing.
Cheers.

[skyetoyman]

trumpet needed. John sells them (s.o.s.). He also stocks the tiller stub and hopefull the wing nut.

[Keith.P]

The extra fittings on the carb are not seagull, like the fuel tap, It would have had a storm cover with no choke.
P.s. gear lever bar fitted wrong, bar should be facing in not out, this lines up with the non rounded edge of the top exhaust clamp, stops the motor jumping into gear.
D16 is fine.