Skeletal Bracket
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- NaughtyBits
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Skeletal Bracket
Hello all,
Looking for some close-up pics of a complete skeletal bracket - particularly showing what the original bolts & transom screws were - so I can get my incomplete one finished as accurately as possible. Have done a search but hard to tell from the pics I've found so far.
The bolts on mine are steel & look a little thrown together from whatever was laying around in the shed. Are they supposed to be brass? Nuts either side?
The thumbscrews are stainless, missing the cups - are these likely to have been original? And if so - same pads as the Marston likely?
I'm also missing the bronze V-strut if anyone would like to sell or trade?
Thanks for any help. Have a good one.
Looking for some close-up pics of a complete skeletal bracket - particularly showing what the original bolts & transom screws were - so I can get my incomplete one finished as accurately as possible. Have done a search but hard to tell from the pics I've found so far.
The bolts on mine are steel & look a little thrown together from whatever was laying around in the shed. Are they supposed to be brass? Nuts either side?
The thumbscrews are stainless, missing the cups - are these likely to have been original? And if so - same pads as the Marston likely?
I'm also missing the bronze V-strut if anyone would like to sell or trade?
Thanks for any help. Have a good one.
Re: Skeletal Bracket
Here are some photos of mine for you to compare. My understanding is that bent thumbscrews were brass, and they are available from SOS. The pressure pads are made from steel, stainless I think. The marston ones are different as they have cast alloy pads and wing nuts. The replacement later thumbscrews are beautifully made, well worth the cost I think.
- NaughtyBits
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Thank you both.
Looks like the bolts are steel, any idea of diameter & thread for the upper & lower mounting studs?
Looks like the bolts are steel, any idea of diameter & thread for the upper & lower mounting studs?
Re: Skeletal Bracket
I’ll measure mine tomorrow
Re: Skeletal Bracket
Yep, brass thumbscrews.
Note extra bolt across, above thumb screws. Strengthen bracket mod by BS?
Note extra bolt across, above thumb screws. Strengthen bracket mod by BS?
- NaughtyBits
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Measured up the stainless (monel, maybe?) thumbscrews - 3/8" diameter, not the usual 7/16". Strange.
Given the ball ends - maybe an early run, a stepping stone between the Marston thumbscrews with pads & the brass L's..? Doesn't explain the smaller diameter, though (assuming all of the Marston thumbscrews also measured 7/16"..?)
Thanks, have a good one.
Given the ball ends - maybe an early run, a stepping stone between the Marston thumbscrews with pads & the brass L's..? Doesn't explain the smaller diameter, though (assuming all of the Marston thumbscrews also measured 7/16"..?)
Thanks, have a good one.
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Take one right out & clean all around the end of the thread to see if someone had repaired with a threaded insert or Helicoil.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Done - definitely no insert or heliocoil.
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Check out the thread with a tiller arm nut, 3/8" BSF.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Are they not 3/8 UNC? when i drilled and tapped the chrome leg for my model 75 the thread was that, or am i misunderstanding?Charles uk wrote:3/8" BSF.
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
There are no UNC or UNF threads on any of the range of British Seagull to the best of my knowledge!
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Hey Charles, no it's not 3/8 BSF. I'll measure it up accurately & get back.
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Re: Skeletal Bracket
Charles, the tiller arm nut is 3/8 BSF, as you said - 20 TPI.
These thumbscrews are 3/8 BSW, 16 TPI.
These thumbscrews are 3/8 BSW, 16 TPI.
Re: Skeletal Bracket
Well spotted Hugz. I will have a look in the the workshop tomorrow and see what mine are like.