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Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Horsley-Anarak » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:09 pm

Jacob showed some interest in restoring an OA, so here is some of the rebuild.

This is the engine as I found it, had been used in the sea and was showing the results of years of corrosion, engine had been loved and had been repaired in the past, including a welded repair on the leg.

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Cylinder was in bits

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I thought that this motor would never run again, as cylinders are very scarce, so I decided to restore as a display motor.

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Sand blasted cylinder and rebuilt maintaining water ways, I used JB Weld, which if you have not used it is quite incredible.
It is a strong 2 part epoxy.

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In one piece, and would have run but there was a pin hole in the bore.

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All painted and ready to fit, then put on the back burner as other projects took over, that was in 2014.

Then I found a replacement cylinder :)

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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Horsley-Anarak » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:28 pm

The next bit I will mend is the pepper pot.
This one is a bit squashed, and is missing the central pin and washer.

Will turn a nylon former on the lathe, so that I can bash it back into shape.

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Bit more involved than a regular seagull

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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Dabtoe » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:56 am

Hi Allan, sterling work,is the pepper pot a choke on the carb inlet ( I’ve never seen an OA) does it contain a filter? Back in the sixties,stationed on an island off Hong Kong I owned an Excelsior 150 which had a very similar choke,the filter was metal and had to be washed in petrol and oiled at regular intervals,engine was Villiers............
Please keep up the posts of the OA very interesting
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Horsley-Anarak » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:47 pm

No mesh in these, just the 4 holes.

Have rebuilt the ignition, new coil and condenser.
Need to make 2 new screws, as 2 broke off even after some heat, drilled them out and re-tapped.
have used 10x32 unf, should be 3/16 bsf I think, but from what I can see unf is 25 thou bigger and holes were a little oversize.

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Have been cleaning up the other bits

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I find a big heated ultrasonic tank very useful.

cylinder ready with new gasket 12.5 thou thick.

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Now getting into the tricky stuff, gearbox and leg.
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Charles uk » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:00 pm

You should have asked Alan,
the register has had 3/16" BSF Pallister head screws re manufactured in the correct lengths & we have some of the points box screws, we also have a 3/16" BSF Helicoil kit & a fixture to hold them on the bed of a DRO equipt mill so that the holes/lamination's are exactly in the right locations.

The cylinder base gasket thickness is supposed to be the same as the current base gasket, 10 thou.
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Horsley-Anarak » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:57 pm

Charles uk wrote:The cylinder base gasket thickness is supposed to be the same as the current base gasket, 10 thou.


I measured the original gasket and that was 12.5 thou, so went with that, should run :lol:

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Back together now and it has a spark and compression.

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Soon be going.
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Oyster 49 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:04 pm

Looking very nice. Keep the pics coming :P

My OG needed the throttle link shaft, that connects the FNR lever to the throttle. I borrowed an original part from a fellow Marston owner, and copied it. Works well, and I made two so I have one spare if anybody needs one. The spring and cable adjuster came from eBay.

I’ve also made replacement bayonet caps too. I reckon these alone have made the cost of the lathe worthwhile. 8)
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Oyster 49 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:11 pm

I wonder if nudge could cast a Marston cyclinder in alluminium? Show only of course, with no piston or con rod!

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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Charles uk » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:00 am

If it's only an ornament why not use GRP, with a two piece mould split vertically, also made from from GRP, then drill & tap the spark plug thread & the holes for the 4 crank studs, 2 exhaust threads, then a bit of black paint.

Trouble is, then no OA's get broken for spares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Nudge » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:40 am

I wonder if nudge could cast a Marston cyclinder in alluminium? Show only of course, with no piston or con rod!


You got one to use as a pattern?

Trouble is, then no OA's get broken for spares!

I do hear what you are saying.... but it would be good for a play.
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby JERSEYMAN » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:29 am

Aluminium barrel, and either a chrome/nikasil bore or a cast sleeve??? Now there’s a thought :idea:

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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Charles uk » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am

Has to be a cast bore Rene, the rings are not suitable for Nikasil or Chrome bores, but you can buy a complete OA for less than the cost of a replacement re-manufactured cylinder, & there were doubts about the strength of the inlet stub.

Nikasil coating & grinding was £125 a cylinder 6 or 7 years ago.
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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Horsley-Anarak » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:56 pm

Replaced the leg tube today, bit of a job.

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There was an old welded repair

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Bored out the old tube

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Silver soldered new tube in

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Cleaned it up, ready to be chromed.

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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Oyster 49 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:26 pm

That’s a proper job. Nice one 8)

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Re: Restoring a Marston OA

Postby Nudge » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:32 am

Looks a tad better than the old one. 8)
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