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Re: James May the reassembler

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I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just looking at it as a opportunity to do something constructive, this site has a lot more people just viewing it for information, and take it all as gospel, than it has members, I just think it would be a missed opportunity, that's all.
If H-A has the time to do a deconstruction or construction videos, as I suspect he has more then enough know-how to do so, that would help anyone that wants to get involved with Seagulls, but doesn't know one end of the motor from the other and for others that think they do.
That's my view anyway.
Or just take up Charles option with the boxing gloves and do some destruction instead.
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Re: James May the reassembler

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Pure entertainment.

Any newbies that might be reading this, please look away now. Nothing to see here.




Still reckon 15 mins is a tall order......
I'm not doubting your abilities H-A, or anyone else's for that matter.
And as a FYI i have been self employed before now. I know all too well about strict time constraints etc. especially when it's your arse on the line. Been there, done that, NEVER AGAIN thanks.

Keep us posted on the date when this will happen. (it's less than 2 hours down the M4 for me if you need a time keeper?)


Here's my version of what i think the rules should be:

Powerhead stripped completely into component form i'e cylinderhead, cylinder, crankcases, crankshaft, con-rod,gudgeon pin,piston, piston rings, circlips, tiller with grip (throttle lever removed)

Ignition
Baseplate fitted with points and coils etc. in 1 big part, flywheel and all associated fittings removed, ht lead and spark plug removed.

Fuel tank with cap removed and tap removed
Carb removed from cylinder,slide removed, cable removed, float removed, fuel line removed (dont lose the filter)

Transom bracket stripped right down to nuts and bolts etc.
Tilt stay and hook removed from torque tube
Torque tube removed from pump housing
Pump housing removed from gearbox

Gearbox
End cap removed
prop removed, drive spring removed with washer and pin
drive shaft collar and pin removed
main shaft removed with any thrust washers (pinion still fitted to keep things fair)


Lets try and keep this like the lawnmower vid.
When we mean stripped down we really do mean STRIPPED DOWN to almost nothing.

OH, and NO POWERTOOLS or AIR TOOLS or BATTERY POWERED tools to be used either.
Old skool all the way with this.

Does that sound fair?
What about the rest of you guys out there, what do you think.


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Re: James May the reassembler

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I think if you lose the fuel filter it will go more than an hour, it did when I put mine somewhere safe :oops:
From the time it took H-A to make me a tool to remove a jet for my problem carb to the time the photo was posted here, I know the 10 to 15 minute timescale is going to be spot on, This will be the most useful video I will ever watch
anyone want to bet ? 8)
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Re: James May the reassembler

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I dont have a fuel filter in my engine.. or a camera or I would give it a go.
good luck with it, I will keep my eyes open for the video. :P
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Re: James May the reassembler

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My money is on H-A to achieve a sub 20 minute time.. I would suggest torque tube remains fitted to pump housing as removal and refit tent can carry some risk of damage.
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Re: James May the reassembler

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So the rules have changed again, now he has to make an educational video that covers the entire reassembly of a 40+ Seagull lasting less than 20 minutes.

I would have thought that to serve any useful purpose this video would have to have several chapters, powerhead, ignition, Villiers carb, water pump & lower unit & complete reassembly of all of these component groups to give a complete working 40+, & that doesn't include the pitfalls & tips for disassembly of a 40+ chapter.

If it's not 99% accurate, it would loose much of it's educational value, & the powerhead chapter would have to have tips on marking the big end cap & bearings to enable correct assembly, wiring the big end screws, not breaking the rings & inserting the piston back into the cylinder, etc. etc.

It's wonderful H-A that you've decided to devote the rest of your life to providing a video Haynes workshop manual for the 40+, might I suggest that you add a couple of extra chapters so as to include the featherweight (sealed/non sealed) & the sealed clutched lower units!
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: James May the reassembler

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I will take one to bits as far as I can be bothered, and then will film the re-assembly using whatever tools or techniques that I want to use.

Have dug out a suitable motor, given to me by the wife of a deceased neighbour.

It had not run for many years, but I soon had it going and it pumps water, which is always a bonus.
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I will clean up the bits before assembly, but other than that it is a standard Bing carbed 40+ (GFP 937DD7).

This motor will be up for offers, all proceeds to Cancer Research.

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Re: James May the reassembler

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So we're NOT keeping things as per Mr.Mays video then? :cry:
At least the lawn mower was utterly and completely in pieces.



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Re: James May the reassembler

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headdownarseup wrote:So we're NOT keeping things as per Mr.Mays video then? :cry:
At least the lawn mower was utterly and completely in pieces.Jon
I tell you what Jon, you do it, then we can all critique you.
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Re: James May the reassembler

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ok A.H do as you have promised and i pledge 20 pounds to a charity of your choice.
ok members lets turn this in to positive and raise some cash and elevate the good name of the forum, 5 quid will do :mrgreen:
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Re: James May the reassembler

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Sorted

Write my name on the list H-A next to £10.00
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: James May the reassembler

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Great idea I'll sponsor H-A £10 too 8)
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Re: James May the reassembler

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Motor all in bits, new cylinder base gasket made , cylinder head gasket annealed.

Gearbox oil draining, 2 waterpump housing screw yet to remove.

Have timed transom bracket assembly, took 24 seconds for 9 components, stil think sub 15 minutes running is possible :lol:

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Re: James May the reassembler

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impressive my friend, looking forward to the video.
then i will strip my century. :shock:
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Re: James May the reassembler

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I'm a bit open-mouthed in wonder at this whole thread. It usually takes me a bit more than the allotted time to find my workshop key.
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