Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
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Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Just purchased a small Seagull which appears to be in reasonable condition....see attachment
Cleaned the carb and tank and using a drop of 2 stroke the engine does run and appear to pump water. Going to check gearbox oil and then hope to put it on the 8 ft boat and go for a run. According to the the serial number the engine was built around 1972 and appears to be fitted with a bing carb. Just wondering if someone can put me straight on the 2 stroke fuel as i don't want to ruin the engine, i have read that you can use 10.40 engine oil with a mix of around 15.1 is this correct. I do have some commer Mineral oil which states it is dual temperature, would this be suitable AT 25.1? Just found a bottle of Motex pictured, suitable?
Engine serial number....FP2122C2
Any advice appreciated.
Regards
Rob
Cleaned the carb and tank and using a drop of 2 stroke the engine does run and appear to pump water. Going to check gearbox oil and then hope to put it on the 8 ft boat and go for a run. According to the the serial number the engine was built around 1972 and appears to be fitted with a bing carb. Just wondering if someone can put me straight on the 2 stroke fuel as i don't want to ruin the engine, i have read that you can use 10.40 engine oil with a mix of around 15.1 is this correct. I do have some commer Mineral oil which states it is dual temperature, would this be suitable AT 25.1? Just found a bottle of Motex pictured, suitable?
Engine serial number....FP2122C2
Any advice appreciated.
Regards
Rob
Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Still 10:1 until about 78, try and keep it at about 10:1, unless you convert it to 25:1
Frequently asked Questions page.
http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/faq/faq.htm
Frequently asked Questions page.
http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/faq/faq.htm
Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
if it has the bing carb you can run it on 25/1
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
I ran a check on the engine number.........year came up but no details other.
I would run 10:1 as Bings will do nicely until trying 25:1 that Bings do nicely as well for the short term.
Main crank bearings is the thing.
You say appears to be a bing carb........is that just from research or is it what the motor has clagged on the side now.
10:1 until someone can confirm other than my recent search.
Not that oil!
Glad to have you on board!
B
I would run 10:1 as Bings will do nicely until trying 25:1 that Bings do nicely as well for the short term.
Main crank bearings is the thing.
You say appears to be a bing carb........is that just from research or is it what the motor has clagged on the side now.
10:1 until someone can confirm other than my recent search.
Not that oil!
Glad to have you on board!
B
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Thanks for your replies, i'll take a look around and see if i can pick up some tcw3 2 stroke oil, canal is at bottom of garden so thought while weather was still holding might be nice for a run, but will wait until i pick up correct oil. I'll post a picture of the carb, from the breakdown does look like a bing.
This is all new to me but will no doubt figure it out as i go along.
Regards
Rob
This is all new to me but will no doubt figure it out as i go along.
Regards
Rob
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Why not that oil Bruce, what's wrong with it?
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Not my cup of tea for Old Dears is all Charles.
I encourage better via my input most times regardless.
Most times a poster gets something better after is all.
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I encourage better via my input most times regardless.
Most times a poster gets something better after is all.
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Noticed the local shop may stock these.....is one any better than the other....
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/General-Traffi ... w3&submit=
Thanks
Rob
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/General-Traffi ... w3&submit=
Thanks
Rob
Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
That 2T oil, I got some bottles from a local garage for £2.99, I use it to run motors up in the test tank, but I wouldn't use it if the motor is going on the water.
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Your Motex 2T fits all your Seagulls requirements, mix the first tank full at 15 : 1 as it's not been run for a while, then 20 : 1 as you don't know if it's had an easy or hard life.
Also check the gearbox lube, you will eventually find all the info on the main site.
Which canal?
Also check the gearbox lube, you will eventually find all the info on the main site.
Which canal?
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Thanks
We live on the Caldon Canal, in North Staffs, i'll try the Motex over the weekend or may order some of the proper oil off the ebay.
Regards
Rob
We live on the Caldon Canal, in North Staffs, i'll try the Motex over the weekend or may order some of the proper oil off the ebay.
Regards
Rob
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Motex is TCW 3 look it up.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
NO Charles!Charles uk wrote:Your Motex 2T fits all your Seagulls requirements, mix the first tank full at 15 : 1 as it's not been run for a while, then 20 : 1 as you don't know if it's had an easy or hard life.
Also check the gearbox lube, you will eventually find all the info on the main site.
Which canal?
The Oil as above is incorrect.............
http://www.texacobaltic.eu/en/products/ ... ex-2t.html
Yes they make a marine oil but why be so blunt in a reply so straight up?
Completely different including packaging?
http://www.texacobaltic.eu/en/products/ ... board.html
This is how visitors can do better.
Cheers I think.....
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
It's TCW 3 & that's what Seagull specs require, if it's only for air cooled motors it will have a little higher viscosity but as Seagull's were designed to use 30 grade motor oil it should be no problem.
Sorry if I offended you with a blunt reply, but you offered no reason why an oil that fitted all the technical specs was not suitable to a newby who just needed a straight forward answer, I would run that stuff in any of my motors from a Marston to an Anzani B racer.
Sorry if I offended you with a blunt reply, but you offered no reason why an oil that fitted all the technical specs was not suitable to a newby who just needed a straight forward answer, I would run that stuff in any of my motors from a Marston to an Anzani B racer.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: Just Purchased A Seagull, Loooking for Advice.
Rob
Once again thank you for asking SOS boards your questions.
Please read between the lines of Charles and C.I.
Sometimes we get messed up and looks like conflict......Not at all actually.
You may get used to us if you hang around aye.
Now we need more info on your nice motor.
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Once again thank you for asking SOS boards your questions.
Please read between the lines of Charles and C.I.
Sometimes we get messed up and looks like conflict......Not at all actually.
You may get used to us if you hang around aye.
Now we need more info on your nice motor.
B
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