A bit like the fast fit side of the motor industry these days.
They certainly want their pound of flesh (and then some)
NO, not much fun at all...
All we see is the fruits of their labour all those years ago. Hats off to them i say
jon
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headdownarseup
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I must have seen a recruitment advert 
bit like this one
While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. ‘Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter. 'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you. ‘No problem, just let me in,' says the man. ‘Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity. ‘Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the senator. ‘I’m sorry, but we have our rules. ‘And with that, St.Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator raises...The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him. ‘Now it's time to visit heaven. ‘So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns. ‘Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity. ‘The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell. ‘So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't understand,' stammers the senator. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? ‘The devil looks at him, smiles and says, 'Yesterday we were campaigning....Today you voted.'
oh and here is the article I read
bit like this one
While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. ‘Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter. 'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you. ‘No problem, just let me in,' says the man. ‘Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity. ‘Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the senator. ‘I’m sorry, but we have our rules. ‘And with that, St.Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator raises...The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him. ‘Now it's time to visit heaven. ‘So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns. ‘Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity. ‘The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell. ‘So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't understand,' stammers the senator. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? ‘The devil looks at him, smiles and says, 'Yesterday we were campaigning....Today you voted.'
oh and here is the article I read
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Mike Killay
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Re: End of production
Such a pity that such a simple but ultimately reliable engine could not survive.
Those of you who know Milford Haven may know Cresswell Creek. a narrow winding, drying but very beautiful place.
I was attending Seafair Rally last year. As we came to leave Cresswell on an already falling tide, my Mariner 2hp would not start, also, petrol was pouring out of the front of it.
Now there are 10 screws to be undone just to remove the engine covers on a Mariner. Them the carburettor is hidden behind a panel and needs a long screwdriver.
There was nothing that I could do. The wind was on the nose so no hope of sailing out. So I had a very long pull ahead of me with the oars.
Even back at the camp site, there was no chance of repairs.
Contrast this with a Seagull. The fault was a silly problem inside the float chamber causing flooding. 5 minutes work on a Seagull
That is why I say they are the ultimate reliable engine. Even if they are oily, noisy and smoky.
Imagine being in some remote creek or beach with the weather getting bad, no where near help and the recoil starter rope breaks.
Of course, with a Seagull, there are lots of get out alternatives, not so with the more modern, Mr. clean clothes 4 stroke.
Marvellous engine the Seagull. Will keep mine to the end of my days.
Those of you who know Milford Haven may know Cresswell Creek. a narrow winding, drying but very beautiful place.
I was attending Seafair Rally last year. As we came to leave Cresswell on an already falling tide, my Mariner 2hp would not start, also, petrol was pouring out of the front of it.
Now there are 10 screws to be undone just to remove the engine covers on a Mariner. Them the carburettor is hidden behind a panel and needs a long screwdriver.
There was nothing that I could do. The wind was on the nose so no hope of sailing out. So I had a very long pull ahead of me with the oars.
Even back at the camp site, there was no chance of repairs.
Contrast this with a Seagull. The fault was a silly problem inside the float chamber causing flooding. 5 minutes work on a Seagull
That is why I say they are the ultimate reliable engine. Even if they are oily, noisy and smoky.
Imagine being in some remote creek or beach with the weather getting bad, no where near help and the recoil starter rope breaks.
Of course, with a Seagull, there are lots of get out alternatives, not so with the more modern, Mr. clean clothes 4 stroke.
Marvellous engine the Seagull. Will keep mine to the end of my days.
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That sounds like the 5 minute problem I have, so far cos I don't know anything I have been at it for 5 hoursMike Killay wrote:. The fault was a silly problem inside the float chamber causing flooding. 5 minutes work on a Seagull
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Niander101
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Re: End of production
Yes it was a sarcastic "fun".
Bet they had a break at 10 in the morning though[probably a Sausage butty and coffee too]...Latest job 1 had...no break 2 x 4hour stints.
Apparently legal...where is European law when you actually need it?
Bet they had a break at 10 in the morning though[probably a Sausage butty and coffee too]...Latest job 1 had...no break 2 x 4hour stints.
Apparently legal...where is European law when you actually need it?
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headdownarseup
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Re: End of production
For me it's nearer to 6 hours before a break of any kind. (and you can forget your 15 mins in the morning and afternoon)
There's a lot to be said for yesteryear and the way they did things.
Not ever having had any experience with "modern" outboards, i can't comment, BUT the good 'ol seagull fits nicely with me.
I love 'em to bits, simple to work on, reasonably reliable (most of the time) tuff and rugged, that's what you want in an outboard isn't it?
jon
There's a lot to be said for yesteryear and the way they did things.
Not ever having had any experience with "modern" outboards, i can't comment, BUT the good 'ol seagull fits nicely with me.
I love 'em to bits, simple to work on, reasonably reliable (most of the time) tuff and rugged, that's what you want in an outboard isn't it?
jon
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Niander101
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Re: End of production
6 hours with no rest? Should be illegal!
Poor you!... Crap European law doesn't even protect the workers in the UK.
Poor you!... Crap European law doesn't even protect the workers in the UK.
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bikerboyfife
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6 hour before a break you should try my job I left the house on Monday and thats me just in the door tonight and thats an easy week ha ha ye don't know your living. ....Niander101 wrote:6 hours with no rest? Should be illegal!
Poor you!... Crap European law doesn't even protect the workers in the UK.
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I thought I was badly done to, 40 hour week, overtime at time and a half, paid lunch break, 31 days paid holiday
and a boss that loves me, I do have to work weekends and deal with the public
and a boss that loves me, I do have to work weekends and deal with the public
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bikerboyfife
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Hi Tam, that looks just the job
I will mail you now
thanks
Steve
I will mail you now
thanks
Steve
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headdownarseup
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Re: End of production
A 39 hour week is normal for me. The thing that @!??&$ me off more than anything is i HAVE TO do 5 hours overtime on a saturday (every saturday) at normal rate (i wish it was paid at time and a half) and then there are the bank holidays.
I've been to work today 10 till 4, but i could have done without it really. (too much seagulling stuff that needs finishing and little time to do it in)
SO, looking at how BS did things years ago, it doesn't seem all that bad now does it?
An honest day's work for an honest day's pay...
jon
I've been to work today 10 till 4, but i could have done without it really. (too much seagulling stuff that needs finishing and little time to do it in)
SO, looking at how BS did things years ago, it doesn't seem all that bad now does it?
An honest day's work for an honest day's pay...
jon