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Re: Original?

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just another 102 fancier!

as from earlier on in the thread, "YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH".
this should be an easy fix to get it back to what's what.
send me the data on it when your ready :D

good luck with it B

and better luck next time AJ! (you'll get a nice one soon enough)

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Re: Original?

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I'm surprised re the shipping, Perth is about the same distance as Hobart, all be it not across the Bass straight. Smart Send wouldn't ship that size and Pack and Send was uneconomical.

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PS congrats B looks like a good engine
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Re: Original?

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AJ

Shipping is $AU 230.47

Picked up and across the wide brown land delivered to my door.

Post code 4506 t0 6018

40cmx50cmx120cm x30KG

Do a google earth and see how far it is Across land however?.

Maybe some muddy water with storms and foam may have inflated the cost.

Thanks for the gongrats mate

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Re: Original?

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Oh good! Much more interested in exact measurement of crate and stencils made up of markings and timber used. Overland it is then! If I recall you have an SD bottom end that will meld well.
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Re: Original?

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I have the gearbox from AC43130 to use. The rest of the power head is a tad sad internally so it is just lying about.
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The gearbox/prop on the soon arrival AC will go on to my WC177KK3 which stops it being such a bitsa hopefully.
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Evens things up a bit.

I will measure everything about the crate and post separately.

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Picked up yesterday with no issues.

On its way.

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Re: Original?

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Collector Inspector wrote:
I will measure everything about the crate and post separately.
Looking forward to that Bruce, Will start collecting timber. :wink:

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Horsley-Anarak wrote:
Collector Inspector wrote:
I will measure everything about the crate and post separately.
Looking forward to that Bruce, Will start collecting timber. :wink:

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Cheep Cheep and lite timber would prob be the way to go initially as if this is like Britannia cases...........................made strong but out of, let me say......Crap Wood?

I have worked out how to indicate measurements construction just by photos as well as what the stencils measure at. Someone can do Vector etc later.

Has to travel a Wide Brown Land first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5bNhQrKay0

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Re: Original?

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My guess is that the factory would have used 'Radiata Pine" standard building material here too. Not pressure treated though.

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Re: Original?

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Radiata is really a southern hemisphere / Pacific rim timber not really available within cheap shipping distance of the UK.

Much more likley to be Norway Spruce or Douglas fir.

Ha will have a better knowledge than me.
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Re: Original?

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You are correct Charles, Radiata, although extremely common in Australia as plantation timber, would not have been available in the UK, nor is it grown there in commercial quantities. so some one, what were the packing cases constructed from?

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Re: Original?

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Listened to this and was moved almost to tears.

But as to the timber of the crate: I recently saw one at Jan's place. I didn't do a proper identification of the wood, but as I remember it was ordinary fir or maybe a cheap quality of pine. Nothing special. But I liked the stamps and labelling.
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Re: Original?

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Adrian Dale wrote:You are correct Charles, Radiata, although extremely common in Australia as plantation timber, would not have been available in the UK, nor is it grown there in commercial quantities. so some one, what were the packing cases constructed from?

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If you want to be this original, than we would need to know the size, material and placement of the nails too. Where do you draw the line in period correctness?
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Re: Original?

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Period correctness would (Wood) not really be an issue as each crate would (Wood) have been made Ad Hoc with available material cut sizes by anyone on the particular shift or Duty to bash them together.............out the door and gone.

Just the cut sizes and dimensions of a finished crate is going to be measured and submitted..................nothing more and nothing less.

A woulden (Wooden) box is not something to be either Period or exact...............just fun to either copy or improve with woodwork skills at a later date.

Maybe someone will construct something later that is a quality worthy of an artisan furniture maker who can tell aye?

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Re: Original?

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There seem to be 2 types of crates I've seen in the UK.

Wartime storage box, tongue & groove oak, green painted with white stenciled letters.

Late 50s & 60s shipping crate, softwood, if you bought a Seagull but not from a dealer with stock, the chances are, it came on the train to your local station's goods yard in one of these boxes.

I've seen the paperwork for all this but can't remember who had it, a deposit was payable to Seagull for the use of a shipping crate, your money was refunded when the box was returned.

Overseas shipping might have used cheaper crates as it was unlikley they would ever be returned, they would have to be pretty sturdy in the pre container days of cargo nets on cranes & there was a lot less money about in the colonies before the 70s.
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