Seagull Crates

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Can anyone help me with the dimensions of a seagull crate please. I have a heap of timber from work that i can use to make up 2 crates. I would like to make one for a 102 and a 40-plus. I could leave the motors in them and it would be great to keep the motors from getting damaged. What i was after was Length--Height--Width--Depth. I was also after a pic of the insides that clamp the motor in there. Many Thanks

[Collector Inspector]

Me too actually.

B

[david doyle]

I built one for a 40 plus long leg with a square steel tank. The widest dimensions were determined by the width of the tank at the mounting bolts. Built it so that the bolts slide down a groove to keep the engine from sliding up or down and hitting the tank cap or skeg. Leg is supported with a notched piece that supports the gear box (not the dentable aluminum tube) once you look at the gear box/pump housing you will see there is a spot there that is perfect.

To dimension the box I laid the engine on the ground (tank down) and with the leg slightly angled down (so that it does not drain into the crank/block) Then used a steel sqaure to measure it out. Maybe it was 42x16x? . I built the box as a solid mass then set a rip fence on the skil saw for a 2 inch offset and cut the lid off. IMHO building boxes and lids seperately is a fool's errand, but that said I am a terrible cabinet maker. The piece that supports the leg also gives a location to afix the transom mount.

Now here is the down side. A box for a 40 plus becomes HUGE, out of all proportion for the tiny engine. I ended up not afixing the lid and using it as an open box.

I have some 1/4 ply to build a box for a brass tank short leg 40 and this time I am not going to make it rectangular. I am going to make it "form fitting" i.e large at one end and tapered to the prop. I might even go so far as to make it only fit an engine with the prop off. pins are cheaper then packing space. Even a form fitting box will leave you space to store tools, spare prop, mixing oil, etc along with the engine. A non form fitting box gives space for anchors, boom boxes circa 1985, kitchen sinks and a six pack or 2.

My goal was to create something that would allow me to carry the engine in the boat during transport or as a spare engine when afloat. The box was suppose to double as a transverse seat in the middle of the boat. Like I mention above tho it became too big in a hurry. If keeping the drips and smells out of your car boot is the goal I'd go with pond liner material glued/riveted into a bag with a roll over waterproof top.

If you are trying to recreat an exact replica I think I have some detailed pics from an auction.

I'll go take a pic of my ugly box.

[skyetoyman]

Not sure if this is any help

[david doyle]

Here are some pics. I would not suggest building anything as ugly or rushed but posted them to illustrate just how much dead space a rectangular box creates when you have a square tank.

[david]

Is that a DEAD Seagull....it's tiller is hanging down and the prop looks a little off....what killed it? Nice coffin though....a bit of red silk and you are in.

[Horsley-Anarak]

[Horsley-Anarak]

I keep looking at the boot sales for one of these.

I may make one when I have spare timber.

It would be nice to see the OA storage box option, mentioned in the spares book.

H-A

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H-A. Is that your actual crate that youve taken pics of. If so thats what i was after. Could i please ask if you could take some measurements for me Length--Width--Depth. Many Thanks

[Hugz]

This crate came with a forty to the owner of a Halvorsen cruiser to be used with the tender. It is debatable whether it was built by Halvorsen or Seagull. The handle has been added later.

[1650bullet]

Thats a good one Hugo. I have just found out that the crates were only used for carting seagulls to dealships and customers abroad. Once the motor was delivered, it was returned to seagull Factory in poole and a deposit was returned. I always thought that the crate came with the motor, but all it was used for was transport. So one seagull crate could of shipped a number of motors in its life time.

[Horsley-Anarak]

H-A. Is that your actual crate that youve taken pics of. If so thats what i was after. Could i please ask if you could take some measurements for me Length--Width--Depth. Many Thanks

No sorry I just saved pictures as I saw them.

You should be able to scale it near enough.

H-A

[Niander101]

Imagine finding an unmentionable in a crate like that brand new...then woke up and fell outta bed...big time.

[chris]

hello kean I actually have one

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hello kean I actually have one

Hmmmmmmmmm. Do you now. Next time im at your place i will have to hit you over the back of the head and sneek it in the back of my car.