Mystery Outboard
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Mystery Outboard
Anyone Know what this Ole Girl is or was, saved it from a trip to the dump.
John
John
Re: Mystery Outboard
That is a an interesting one.
Cant say I have seen anything like it.
Bruce (Perth) will know , he probably has a couple.
Mark
Cant say I have seen anything like it.
Bruce (Perth) will know , he probably has a couple.
Mark
Re: Mystery Outboard
Looks like it's air-cooled, judging by the fins on the block - and I'm guessing the Victa starter is a 'modification'....
Anzani???? Villiers???? Or an early Jap motor???
C'mon, Bruce, wake up!!
[BTW, Bruce, if you read this, your 'usual' email address is bouncing with a 'does not exist' message.....is it because your site is down??]
Anzani???? Villiers???? Or an early Jap motor???
C'mon, Bruce, wake up!!
[BTW, Bruce, if you read this, your 'usual' email address is bouncing with a 'does not exist' message.....is it because your site is down??]
gullible, a. The effect on reason of the appearance of anything 'Gull-related on an internet sales site
Re: Mystery Outboard
Don't know the Victor, other then a heavy cast block and a plastic carb.
Definitely a mower type engine, looks like a some kind of catalogue motor.
Like this outboard, must have gone down the pub to design this one.
http://www.ecvv.com/product/914724.html
Definitely a mower type engine, looks like a some kind of catalogue motor.
Like this outboard, must have gone down the pub to design this one.
http://www.ecvv.com/product/914724.html
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Re: Mystery Outboard
Just about every city in Austrailia had an "outboard" manufacturer, using aircooled industrial & lawnmower engines.
I see nothing English aboout that, who made the carb & what threads are used.
I see nothing English aboout that, who made the carb & what threads are used.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
Re: Mystery Outboard
Thanks for the response.
Keith P, Thats it at 55 seconds and what a neat collection.
Charles uk, I don't think the carb is original as it has a cable opperated choke,
probably came off a Japanese scooter. I agree its not English the quality of the
leg doesn't match the tinware on the motor. Will check the threads tomorrow.
Scooter carby ?
Theres one amongst this collection
John
Keith P, Thats it at 55 seconds and what a neat collection.
Charles uk, I don't think the carb is original as it has a cable opperated choke,
probably came off a Japanese scooter. I agree its not English the quality of the
leg doesn't match the tinware on the motor. Will check the threads tomorrow.
Scooter carby ?
Theres one amongst this collection
John
Re: Mystery Outboard
More than one of them in the clip, if you keep looking.
Nice collection, not that I can recognise any, or is that a seagull hiding up at the end?
Nice collection, not that I can recognise any, or is that a seagull hiding up at the end?
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Re: Mystery Outboard
Australian "Gold Cheetah", it is in Hunn book.
I have three.............one is complete.
The carb is wrong, should be Australian Norson, Amal made under licence Sydney. The recoil is wrong.............they were unique to that power head and first thing to stuff up........................tin housing went straight to rust heaven when first time wet.
The fuel tap/filter is correct. Also used on Olympic, Riverside and the recoil version of the Riptide Fisherman.
Power head was a commercial australian air cooled engine, never used on a lawnmower. Mainly agricultural spraying and pumping equipment. Supplied by McPherson Supply ( I think) all states Aus up to 1961.
4Hp at crankshaft
Rest of it is home grown foundry works eastern states. Transom mounts and gearbox internals were used on other makes over time.
Heavy and robust in their day.
Bondage shackles and Redbacks were an option.
Email is back.
The youtube vid and, alectraproject You Tube, is mine....................
B
I have three.............one is complete.
The carb is wrong, should be Australian Norson, Amal made under licence Sydney. The recoil is wrong.............they were unique to that power head and first thing to stuff up........................tin housing went straight to rust heaven when first time wet.
The fuel tap/filter is correct. Also used on Olympic, Riverside and the recoil version of the Riptide Fisherman.
Power head was a commercial australian air cooled engine, never used on a lawnmower. Mainly agricultural spraying and pumping equipment. Supplied by McPherson Supply ( I think) all states Aus up to 1961.
4Hp at crankshaft
Rest of it is home grown foundry works eastern states. Transom mounts and gearbox internals were used on other makes over time.
Heavy and robust in their day.
Bondage shackles and Redbacks were an option.
Email is back.
The youtube vid and, alectraproject You Tube, is mine....................
B
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Re: Mystery Outboard
Thanks Collector Inspector mystery solved.
I did come across a lawn mower that had the same or a very similar motor
it was called the Myer Pathfinder.
Next will it run!
Thanks John
I did come across a lawn mower that had the same or a very similar motor
it was called the Myer Pathfinder.
Next will it run!
Thanks John
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Re: Mystery Outboard
Hi John
You just edumacated me with the pathfinder mower! Myres was, originally, a Perth only concern back then. They sold the Waterboy outboard motor locally as well.
Thanks for that!
Give it a cobweb brush off, a dose of Mortein, clean the points to 0.014", whack in a plug and test spark, offer some 16:1 air cooled motor two stroke mix and tell us what happens!
The carb on it looks like the mower one but I have a doubt as to originality. May have been a known replacement but looks too modern. Never mind, I have added to documentation for further attention.
The carb on yours has still got the flag type governer so definitely a ring in. It should still work well enough to test fire the Old Bloke Aye!
Could you indicate if the victa recoil start actually works, how it was fitted if it dose?
Well Done and
Good Luck
We love pictures
B
PS: Do you like the magneto design?
You just edumacated me with the pathfinder mower! Myres was, originally, a Perth only concern back then. They sold the Waterboy outboard motor locally as well.
Thanks for that!
Give it a cobweb brush off, a dose of Mortein, clean the points to 0.014", whack in a plug and test spark, offer some 16:1 air cooled motor two stroke mix and tell us what happens!
The carb on it looks like the mower one but I have a doubt as to originality. May have been a known replacement but looks too modern. Never mind, I have added to documentation for further attention.
The carb on yours has still got the flag type governer so definitely a ring in. It should still work well enough to test fire the Old Bloke Aye!
Could you indicate if the victa recoil start actually works, how it was fitted if it dose?
Well Done and
Good Luck
We love pictures
B
PS: Do you like the magneto design?
A chicken is one egg's way of becoming others
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Re: Mystery Outboard
This is the carby that you need
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/victa-18-vin ... 1c2367533d
I have PMd you.
Regards
B
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/victa-18-vin ... 1c2367533d
I have PMd you.
Regards
B
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Re: Mystery Outboard
Trust me to start thinking lawnmower so hunting I went.......................I have the lawn mower version of the motor
It is set up differently to the outboard version.
I think it is slightly smaller all over.
I got it ages ago as a parts/replacement and never even opened the box to notice that. Was from Ebay au.
Cheers
B
It is set up differently to the outboard version.
I think it is slightly smaller all over.
I got it ages ago as a parts/replacement and never even opened the box to notice that. Was from Ebay au.
Cheers
B
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