Cocktail Class Wooden Boat Racing Association

[spiderg]

Hey, is someone saying something personal here??? Actually STM, Spiderg (Gerard) would love something like this but thinks the enjoyment would be offset by the visits to the back specialist. I'm going to get a chat with Charles this week and get his wisdom on this especially as he has the "Yellow Peril". I'm not writing it off but I just don't fancy having to sprawl forward like the pics. Maybe the guys with the technical thinking would suggest ideas to make this plain more and eliminate the need to take the position more suited to a downhill skier. Charles already mentioned moving the wheel position a foot more forward. H-A obviously has ideas, so I'm watching with interest. I like H-As last build and wondered how it would be with a partial deck fitted forward (if you get my drift).
Having never built a boat before I'm wanting to be sure I'm doing exactly what I'm 100% with. I'm just starting to get some time for myself and I hope I can now get some enjoyment from this hobby. With no time limit I hope to learn and build my own thing.

I notice the engines in these are about 6hp, would our wee 2/3hp FPs be more suitable and save our backs?

Gerard

[skyetoyman]

closer to the sharp end , in a kneeling position on an angled seat should do it.

[Horsley-Anarak]

This is a more typical driving position, notice motor is tilted a wee bit on the transom.

I only posted the picture of those light weight girls, because it made me smile.

I have emailed the Association and I am arranging plans.

The proof as they say will be in the pudding.

The real question is will it go well with a Kingfisher or 170 on the back? or do I start looking out for a nice vintage Evinrude 6

As a cheap fun boat it is worth a couple of weekend and a couple of hundred quid.

This would appear to be a rapidly growing racing class.

This method of building looks a lot lighter.

I have looked in detail at all the pictures that I can find, and I would say there is a lot of thought and skill going into these builds.

H-A

[spiderg]

I'm thinking, what about taking away the bulkhead at the wheel, allowing me to get more forward and either putting in another bulkhead forward for a wheel, of just using a tiler extension on my FPC. Could it be lighter than 1/4" ply?

The Apprentice

[Horsley-Anarak]

I'm thinking, what about taking away the bulkhead at the wheel, allowing me to get more forward and either putting in another bulkhead forward for a wheel, of just using a tiler extension on my FPC. Could it be lighter than 1/4" ply?

The Apprentice

You could always space the rear three frames further apart, make the boat say 9' 6" long.

What ever you do an FPC will not have the guts to make it go.

You would need to work on a century to make that have enough grunt, even then it would be very marginal.

These are best suited to Kingfisher or 170 engines I would say, but what do I know.

H-A

[spiderg]

Cheers, at least I know now. No point thinking any further if my FPC won't move it.

Cheers H-A.

[spiderg]

I'm back with a question. I was reading the data sheets on the FP, printed on the forum. According to this, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure you will. With this boat at 8ft, it suggest you take the square root of the waterine and multiply by 1.5, thus giving the maximum speed. So by my calculations we should be talking 4.2 knots, do you agree. I agree this is not a racing speed but not a bad cruising speed in restricted waters.

Gerard

[Horsley-Anarak]

Gerard these little boat are planing hull, you would be better off building a small displacement hull for your 40+.

There are loads of different ones available, have a look here http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/r/plansindex.htm.

Take your pick, that one that Bruce mentioned looked good from Bateau, perhaps he has almost finished it by now and can let us know if it any good

H-A

[Horsley-Anarak]

Have had the Jigsaw out.

Did not get plans from the States, they do not take Paypal Will try and speak to one of my american clients.

Or if one of the American member of this site can help, perhaps they can P.M. me. I could paypal them £40 dollars, and they could post a cheque to the Cocktail club on my behalf.

In the mean time scaled up images off the net.

Should work out OK.

H-A

[Horsley-Anarak]

Looks like it is going to work.

Roll on the good weather.

H-A

[spiderg]

Well done H-A. How's about doing a picture step by step for us lads to see and learn from?

Gerard

[Horsley-Anarak]

I have just heard from the states, that there are some boats being built in Southampton at the moment.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040320097 ... ydroplanes#

They plan to start races this summer.

Anyone got a spare Johnson 6?

H-A

[Horsley-Anarak]

The guys in Southampton have taken some more picture.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040320097 ... ydroplanes#

Interesting on frame stitch and glue technique.

They will soon be ready to run.

"Wanted" Johnson/Evinrude 6 twin 1960-1980

H-A